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06-23-2009, 01:28 PM
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I realize this but i dont think he should have pulled the way he did.i mean we were door to door in first and second and when he hits third he just pulls off.kinnda wierd.ive ridden in a couple bolt on mach 1s and my bro used to have a 98 cobra with cai and 3.73's and mustangs just dont pull that hard above 100mph like he did.theres no way he wasnt spraying or was bsing about being non p.i.i figured he would have the advantage in first and second then i would make up some groud in third ands fourth but that car didnt really seem to wake up until third
98 cobra's and machs should pull nicely 100+....if they are tuned/setup correctly. difference of opinion maybe.
cams mean **** in this instance..trust me.
06-23-2009, 01:40 PM
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06-23-2009, 03:14 PM
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Ya dude, he either lied about his mods or he sprayed you. SN95 cars are usually jokes until they have TONS of money poured into them. Just finish your bolt ons, get a tune, and some 4.10s. You wont have to worry about ANY bolt on mustang, except for a Cobra. Cant really say anything about exaggerating a set up hell me and my buddies are NOTORIOUS for "stock" cars. That is just part of it.
BTW its "Modular Powerhouse" and its in GA.
BTW its "Modular Powerhouse" and its in GA.
06-23-2009, 03:43 PM
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Ya dude, he either lied about his mods or he sprayed you. SN95 cars are usually jokes until they have TONS of money poured into them. Just finish your bolt ons, get a tune, and some 4.10s. You wont have to worry about ANY bolt on mustang, except for a Cobra. Cant really say anything about exaggerating a set up hell me and my buddies are NOTORIOUS for "stock" cars. That is just part of it.
BTW its "Modular Powerhouse" and its in GA.
BTW its "Modular Powerhouse" and its in GA.
Have fun with that line of thinking.
06-23-2009, 11:59 PM
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Those had to be STD or self corrected numbers, and/or an uncaliberated Dyno.
Come on man..you know me....well, you know what I mean. I call it like I see it regardless, and that is just BS. those dyno days are typically out to get customers....high dyno numbers = more customers. NOt saying all shops do this, but they are factors for some.
The mere fact that your 02 GT put down what a mach does with those mods should tell you something. IN fact, those are good numbers even for a Mach with those mods. Let's at least TRY to think realistically here.
Come on man..you know me....well, you know what I mean. I call it like I see it regardless, and that is just BS. those dyno days are typically out to get customers....high dyno numbers = more customers. NOt saying all shops do this, but they are factors for some.
The mere fact that your 02 GT put down what a mach does with those mods should tell you something. IN fact, those are good numbers even for a Mach with those mods. Let's at least TRY to think realistically here.
06-24-2009, 11:51 AM
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Yes I do know you as a matter of fact (Mach1USMC over on SVTP). My GT got dyno'd in NC- not even sure where I just got the sheet when I purchased the car which is LONG gone- traded for the Mach as a matter of fact. I actually thought the numbers for my Mach were kinda low. There were 3 other Machs there and the 2 with similar mods both dyno'd higher than I did. My AF was probably a bit off or something. Who knows. And my buddies 04 Whippled Vert didn't even break 600 (without the baby shot anyways.) It was a very strange day. Maybe the GT had more mods than he said- who knows. But he definitely had no power adders and he wasn't cammed either. Go figure- stranger things have happened though. Like beating some cars that you KNOW damn well should smoke you. It happens bro.
My only point is, something seems wrong with the operator or the dyno itself. ESPECIALLY if cars were all over the place that day. As a result, they aren't realistic numbers.
06-24-2009, 02:14 PM
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Yes I do know you as a matter of fact (Mach1USMC over on SVTP). My GT got dyno'd in NC- not even sure where I just got the sheet when I purchased the car which is LONG gone- traded for the Mach as a matter of fact. I actually thought the numbers for my Mach were kinda low. There were 3 other Machs there and the 2 with similar mods both dyno'd higher than I did. My AF was probably a bit off or something. Who knows. And my buddies 04 Whippled Vert didn't even break 600 (without the baby shot anyways.) It was a very strange day. Maybe the GT had more mods than he said- who knows. But he definitely had no power adders and he wasn't cammed either. Go figure- stranger things have happened though. Like beating some cars that you KNOW damn well should smoke you. It happens bro.
06-24-2009, 02:17 PM
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no kidding...
a full bolt on mach will run as fast as a full bolt on ls1...and as for trap speed there is a recent post on svt and guy is trapping 111 with bolt on's. as high as a bolt on ls1...and another dudes mach with xpipe and CB only traps 107...also up to par
a full bolt on mach will run as fast as a full bolt on ls1...and as for trap speed there is a recent post on svt and guy is trapping 111 with bolt on's. as high as a bolt on ls1...and another dudes mach with xpipe and CB only traps 107...also up to par
06-24-2009, 04:43 PM
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I'm still saying that a full bolt on cammed, properly tuned CAN get into the 260-280 range....I've only seen one do it and it would certainly not be the norm. Look at it this way- anything can happen on the street. Just more incentive to mod.....spray is cheap too!!
Not sure what the guys trap speed is but 03AV8R is running low 11's on his geared full bolt on wt reduced Mach with stock long block.
I just wish the Mach came stock with a 6 speed- that would have made the car SO much nicer.
I just wish the Mach came stock with a 6 speed- that would have made the car SO much nicer.
06-24-2009, 05:13 PM
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I'm still saying that a full bolt on cammed, properly tuned CAN get into the 260-280 range....I've only seen one do it and it would certainly not be the norm. Look at it this way- anything can happen on the street. Just more incentive to mod.....spray is cheap too!!
Not sure what the guys trap speed is but 03AV8R is running low 11's on his geared full bolt on wt reduced Mach with stock long block.
I just wish the Mach came stock with a 6 speed- that would have made the car SO much nicer.
Not sure what the guys trap speed is but 03AV8R is running low 11's on his geared full bolt on wt reduced Mach with stock long block.
I just wish the Mach came stock with a 6 speed- that would have made the car SO much nicer.
Darn it.....you created an itch......6 spd in the mach?..hellZ no. That would have ruined that car.
06-24-2009, 06:24 PM
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And I'm still sayin that you're putting too much emphasis on that ONE dyno. no other non-pi stang has dyno'd that. Not even close. Someone was a tad fidgety with his numbers.
Darn it.....you created an itch......6 spd in the mach?..hellZ no. That would have ruined that car.
Darn it.....you created an itch......6 spd in the mach?..hellZ no. That would have ruined that car.
06-24-2009, 06:49 PM
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OP, I think the guy really has more done to it. But I have to say that my friend 91 5.0l LX with his old H/C/E/I 3:73 306 setup(nothingcrazy; torquy setup) was a little bad motherf***. He ran 12.50 on slicks and 11.7x on a 100shot!!...
I dont even know what a PI Mustang is(sry to be igorant) but I can tell some Stangs are running nice combos. But the thing is he got away fast in 3rd and 4th(somethings fishy here.. N2O) so maybe he didnt tell the whole story. I will add that another friend H/C 347 stroker Fox(everyone has a Fox here..) was gaining on me in 2nd(my strongest gear!) but I gained back in 3rd and 4th...but I'm pushing a strong 400+rwhp!
I dont even know what a PI Mustang is(sry to be igorant) but I can tell some Stangs are running nice combos. But the thing is he got away fast in 3rd and 4th(somethings fishy here.. N2O) so maybe he didnt tell the whole story. I will add that another friend H/C 347 stroker Fox(everyone has a Fox here..) was gaining on me in 2nd(my strongest gear!) but I gained back in 3rd and 4th...but I'm pushing a strong 400+rwhp!
06-24-2009, 09:28 PM
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Honestly. For the love of god do not shift at 5500. That is probably the biggest factor in you dropping back. Just because that's your peak power does NOT make it your shift point. Shifting early will drop you OUT of your powerband in the next gear.
How can you NOT know this? Even my A4 shifts at 6k.
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How can you NOT know this? Even my A4 shifts at 6k.
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06-24-2009, 11:00 PM
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Honestly. For the love of god do not shift at 5500. That is probably the biggest factor in you dropping back. Just because that's your peak power does NOT make it your shift point. Shifting early will drop you OUT of your powerband in the next gear.
How can you NOT know this? Even my A4 shifts at 6k.
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How can you NOT know this? Even my A4 shifts at 6k.
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it's a question btw, i'm still learning about this kind of stuffs.
06-25-2009, 11:29 AM
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Opinions vary but the folks I KNOW with 6 speeds in their Mach LOVE THEM. I loved the 6speed in my Cobra and I love the 6speed in my Z28. No reason for me to think the 6speed would have been bad in the Mach- but that's why it;s YOUR opinion, not mine. LOL It's all good man- that's why there is a variety of cars and mods to choose from. Not everyone likes the same thing.
Got a dyno sheet to post up? Also, do you have before and after Track times/TS's to compare?