The LS1/LT1 rivalry has taken over what used to be a Camaro/rustang rivalry, sad!

 

Very true. But, as time goes on, and faster and faster cars are produced with newer, superior motors, people begin to think the old ones were junk. It's only a matter of time before the LS1 is thought of the same way an LT1 is. It's a never-ending cycle.

 

I understand what you are saying.

But come on LS1 and LT1 people CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG, and stomp mustangs together! HAHA

 

thats only because a stock for stock, all other things being equal, ls1 vs lt1 race would be closer than a stock for stock, all other things being equal, f-body vs mustang race

 

Yea, 385 cubes have nothing to do with that. There are plenty of H/C ls1s (not even TFS' and the compression there.. I trapped 96mph in my old trans am spinning without a tune and 2500 DA.. It wasn't anything special.

I'm not saying lt1s can't be fast.. But you are comparing a 385 to a 346.. Why not compare a 385 to a 383?

 

So an LT1/LS1 race is closer than than LS1/'03 Cobra race, or an LS1/Mach 1 race? Interesting...

 

Do you own either? An LS1 vs 99-04 GT is nowhere near close that's for sure.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't believe he mentioned anything about a GT, everyone knows that outcome.

The Mach and Cobra are both races though.

 

i dont see what the big discrepancy is here. a bolt on/geared LT1 beat a stock LS1. thats a well known fact that the LT1 will win than. mod for mod is obviously to the LS1s advantage.

 

i dont see why everyone has to hate the lt1. there are other ls motors out there that are much more potent than the ls1, like the ls2, ls3, ls7, and ls9. i dont hear them bashing the ls1.

 

I don't believe I said anything about that, did I? I was responding to this...
Was anything said to specify which Mustang was being talked about? Didn't think so.

 

as i said, all things being equal, i dont put the cobra in ther same class as the others. i think, when stock, its a step above. as for the mach 1, never had a problem with them with my lt1 so i can only imagine how bad the ls1 guys beat them. dont even get me started on the gt. the only use for them i see is to pick on ricers.

 

Fyi, a Mach 1 is about a dead nuts race with an LS1. The LS1 may have a slight advantage, but not much at all.

 

Are you comparing a cammed LT1 to a Mach 1? Or are you saying that when your LT1 was stock you never had a problem? Either way, you should be able to see that it's outrageous.
This.

 

Fixed Not that I think Camaros are slow...

 

Not only that, the GT does the 1/4 in 13.9. While that's not LS1 speed, it doesn't take many bolt-ons to get it there. To say GTs are only good for ricer races in a bit obnoxious..
Also, I can't remember me racing a stock LT1 and losing in my stock GT, and people in THIS give more respect to the LT1 than they do the 2v GT.

 

How long will the stock Mach vs Ls1 debate last? It's getting old. It's 2009 now, move on...

 

Why because it's more expensive? The 2002 Camaro Z28 is a bit more than a 2002 Mustang GT. But it's expected to keep up with it, and when it doesn't, it gets ridiculed. The same comparison can be made with the Z28 and the Cobra as well. Having said that, a stock Mach1 and a Stock LS1 is a drivers race. And the Mach1 cost less.
That's because your catfish is modded to the gills. A stock LT1 isn't going to take a stock GT let a lone a stock Mach1.
I am not sure why you are acting all condescending about GTs when they are faster than stock LT1s.

<edit> Sorry, I want to add something. I thought the 94 TransAm was like other LT1s I raced. So no, my car isn't a FASTER car. They are about equal in speed. Regardless, it's still kinda pretentious to bash a car that does the 1/4 the same as yours did when it was stock.
I'm POSITIVE it's getting "Old" for you. You only seem to like to talk about cars you are faster than. Your insecurity slip is showing...

 

But if you put in just a little time and a few dollars here and there, that sucker is gonna bite harder then a police dog

 

There is no doubt in my mind pillarpod. I've been fans of TransAms since I can remember.. Even before Smokey and the Bandit!

I own a 02 GT, and the 02 WS6 Is my FAVORITE car from that period.