Lt1>ls1
Not only that, the GT does the 1/4 in 13.9. While that's not LS1 speed, it doesn't take many bolt-ons to get it there. To say GTs are only good for ricer races in a bit obnoxious..
Also, I can't remember me racing a stock LT1 and losing in my stock GT, and people in THIS give more respect to the LT1 than they do the 2v GT.
Also, I can't remember me racing a stock LT1 and losing in my stock GT, and people in THIS give more respect to the LT1 than they do the 2v GT.
Why because it's more expensive? The 2002 Camaro Z28 is a bit more than a 2002 Mustang GT. But it's expected to keep up with it, and when it doesn't, it gets ridiculed. The same comparison can be made with the Z28 and the Cobra as well. Having said that, a stock Mach1 and a Stock LS1 is a drivers race. And the Mach1 cost less.
That's because your catfish is modded to the gills. A stock LT1 isn't going to take a stock GT let a lone a stock Mach1.
I am not sure why you are acting all condescending about GTs when they are faster than stock LT1s.
That's because your catfish is modded to the gills. A stock LT1 isn't going to take a stock GT let a lone a stock Mach1.
I am not sure why you are acting all condescending about GTs when they are faster than stock LT1s.
After reading through a number of your posts I see your very good at taking the quickest stock 99-04 GT time and comparing them to average/slowest times of other cars. I would like for you to post up a stock timeslip of your car right now, seriously. Bet it doesn't say 13.9...or 13. anything for that matter. 99-04 GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all. Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels. And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's.
Last edited by ARCTIC '00; Dec 26, 2009 at 06:39 PM.
Not to start ****, but my LT1 in its current pathetic slow form eats GT's. Even the newer ones.
Granted once you add mods to a new GT its a different story but thankfully I'm adding a few more to mine fairly soon.
I'll stick to my LT1 and after college go with an LS2/LS3 C6
Best of both worlds
One of my buddies has a 94 Mustang with a fully built H/C/I Kenne Bell boosted 302 and he only beat me by a car and a half from a dig to 120mph. Something is wrong with that car. He should have *** raped me. Not saying this example applies to all Mustangs, but just saying.
When the day ends, we all are modern muscle car guys and love to take our cars out to eat; for some rice!
Granted once you add mods to a new GT its a different story but thankfully I'm adding a few more to mine fairly soon.
I'll stick to my LT1 and after college go with an LS2/LS3 C6
Best of both worldsOne of my buddies has a 94 Mustang with a fully built H/C/I Kenne Bell boosted 302 and he only beat me by a car and a half from a dig to 120mph. Something is wrong with that car. He should have *** raped me. Not saying this example applies to all Mustangs, but just saying.
When the day ends, we all are modern muscle car guys and love to take our cars out to eat; for some rice!
Nothing beats fry'n rice 

A real car has 8 cylinders and spins the REAR tires....Imports need turbos like old men need viagra, because with out it they can't perform


A real car has 8 cylinders and spins the REAR tires....Imports need turbos like old men need viagra, because with out it they can't perform
Last edited by pillarpod; Dec 26, 2009 at 09:51 PM.
Not to start ****, but my LT1 in its current pathetic slow form eats GT's. Even the newer ones.
Granted once you add mods to a new GT its a different story but thankfully I'm adding a few more to mine fairly soon.
I'll stick to my LT1 and after college go with an LS2/LS3 C6
Best of both worlds
One of my buddies has a 94 Mustang with a fully built H/C/I Kenne Bell boosted 302 and he only beat me by a car and a half from a dig to 120mph. Something is wrong with that car. He should have *** raped me. Not saying this example applies to all Mustangs, but just saying.
When the day ends, we all are modern muscle car guys and love to take our cars out to eat; for some rice!
Granted once you add mods to a new GT its a different story but thankfully I'm adding a few more to mine fairly soon.
I'll stick to my LT1 and after college go with an LS2/LS3 C6
Best of both worldsOne of my buddies has a 94 Mustang with a fully built H/C/I Kenne Bell boosted 302 and he only beat me by a car and a half from a dig to 120mph. Something is wrong with that car. He should have *** raped me. Not saying this example applies to all Mustangs, but just saying.
When the day ends, we all are modern muscle car guys and love to take our cars out to eat; for some rice!

a 97 ws6 isn't your average lt1 either though
After reading through a number of your posts I see your very good at taking the quickest stock 99-04 GT time and comparing them to average/slowest times of other cars. I would like for you to post up a stock timeslip of your car right now, seriously. Bet it doesn't say 13.9...or 13. anything for that matter. 99-04 GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all. Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels. And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's. 

If the fastest time is 13.7, most of them will be low-mid 14s.. Most that I see run that exact time, which is a very good race for an lt1 with an lt1 having an advantage the longer the race goes on.
my car wasnt always cammed you know. the only time i have bee beaten by ANY n/a mustang i was bone stock, just bought the car. the other was an 06 gt with full bolt ons
in case you were wondering my bone stock time was 13.7 on 18s with a 2.0 60ft and it was at least 100 degrees out. i figure this based on the fact that i had to keep a towel on my hand to soak up the sweat so my hand wouldnt slip off the shifter.
the same night at the track, there were 2 99-04 gts. one stock, other intake and exhaust. i dont remember what the stock one was running, but i ran the modded one and he lost by running a 13.9
in case you were wondering my bone stock time was 13.7 on 18s with a 2.0 60ft and it was at least 100 degrees out. i figure this based on the fact that i had to keep a towel on my hand to soak up the sweat so my hand wouldnt slip off the shifter.
the same night at the track, there were 2 99-04 gts. one stock, other intake and exhaust. i dont remember what the stock one was running, but i ran the modded one and he lost by running a 13.9
Not very many people though. My best friend owns an '04 GT. And the best he could manage was a 14.0@99, with CAI, OR Prochamber midpipe, Flowmaster catback, and short throw shifter, with 2.0-2.1 60' times. And that was in -200DA. He can bang gears better than about anyone I know too.
If he really is that good, and the DA was that low, and the car was that modified, there had to be something wrong with it. Those mods should have him ~250rwhp, and anyone can tell you that a 3300lb car with 3.27s with that power should be able to do better than 14.0 @ 99mph. That's a really good time for a stock New Edge GT.
i had a full bolton LT1, but never ran it at the track or raced anything but a turbo 240sx and beat it by a car.
but to add to the fire... LOL
but to add to the fire... LOL
Last edited by JayplaySS; Dec 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Serriously?
GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all.
Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels.
And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's.
Last edited by Ke^in; Dec 27, 2009 at 08:00 AM.
When I am referring to 1/4 times, I am referring to those that know how to drive these cars. I've beaten a few stock ls1 Camaros in my 2v, but I would NEVER SAY my car was faster. I beat the driver that didn't know how to drive. But even then, I barely took em.
Could you show us how you got to that number mathematically? Not bashing you or anything, but it sounds made up on the spot.
Having said that, there are a lot f people out there that can't drive. I wouldn't claim GTs were good for low mid 14s knowing those people can't drive. With a proper driver, a 2v can hit the 13.7/13.9 range. It happens all the time. I've seen GTs with boltons running 11s.
Not very many people though. My best friend owns an '04 GT. And the best he could manage was a 14.0@99, with CAI, OR Prochamber midpipe, Flowmaster catback, and short throw shifter, with 2.0-2.1 60' times. And that was in -200DA. He can bang gears better than about anyone I know too.
Last edited by Ke^in; Dec 27, 2009 at 08:01 AM.
GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all.
Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels.
And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's.
BTW I have a trademark on the word "LAWL" as I made it up about 5 years ago. I did a search on the net, and couldn't find anyone saying it. Funny how it's made its way around since then.
Last edited by Ke^in; Dec 27, 2009 at 08:05 AM.
Fixed that to be a bit more honest. If the other two cars you are referring to consistently run those times stock, then you'd have a point. But we know that's not the case. I don't know why some in here think running high 13s in a stock 2v is rare. Especially since that car rated at 14 flat in the quarter mile by MOST car magazines etc. So yeah. a .1 of a second isn't that hard to believe. Most stock SRT4s are rated in 14-14.1, but most people I know run them stock in the 13s.



