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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Not only that, the GT does the 1/4 in 13.9. While that's not LS1 speed, it doesn't take many bolt-ons to get it there. To say GTs are only good for ricer races in a bit obnoxious..


Also, I can't remember me racing a stock LT1 and losing in my stock GT, and people in THIS give more respect to the LT1 than they do the 2v GT.
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Why because it's more expensive? The 2002 Camaro Z28 is a bit more than a 2002 Mustang GT. But it's expected to keep up with it, and when it doesn't, it gets ridiculed. The same comparison can be made with the Z28 and the Cobra as well. Having said that, a stock Mach1 and a Stock LS1 is a drivers race. And the Mach1 cost less.

That's because your catfish is modded to the gills. A stock LT1 isn't going to take a stock GT let a lone a stock Mach1.

I am not sure why you are acting all condescending about GTs when they are faster than stock LT1s.


After reading through a number of your posts I see your very good at taking the quickest stock 99-04 GT time and comparing them to average/slowest times of other cars. I would like for you to post up a stock timeslip of your car right now, seriously. Bet it doesn't say 13.9...or 13. anything for that matter. 99-04 GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all. Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels. And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's.

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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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The lowest time I've seen for a stock 99-04 GT is 13.7, btw. Tons of people run 13.9s.
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The lowest time I've seen for a stock 99-04 GT is 13.7, btw. Tons of people run 14.0-14.2.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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I'm well aware what the majority of people run. It was in response to the "quickest stock 99-04 GT time" comment. Just merely saying that 13.9 isn't the quickest time.
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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My job here is done, back to the Camaro/Mustang rivalry.
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Not to start ****, but my LT1 in its current pathetic slow form eats GT's. Even the newer ones.

Granted once you add mods to a new GT its a different story but thankfully I'm adding a few more to mine fairly soon.

I'll stick to my LT1 and after college go with an LS2/LS3 C6 Best of both worlds

One of my buddies has a 94 Mustang with a fully built H/C/I Kenne Bell boosted 302 and he only beat me by a car and a half from a dig to 120mph. Something is wrong with that car. He should have *** raped me. Not saying this example applies to all Mustangs, but just saying.

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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Nothing beats fry'n rice A real car has 8 cylinders and spins the REAR tires....Imports need turbos like old men need viagra, because with out it they can't perform

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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Not to start ****, but my LT1 in its current pathetic slow form eats GT's. Even the newer ones.

Granted once you add mods to a new GT its a different story but thankfully I'm adding a few more to mine fairly soon.

I'll stick to my LT1 and after college go with an LS2/LS3 C6 Best of both worlds

One of my buddies has a 94 Mustang with a fully built H/C/I Kenne Bell boosted 302 and he only beat me by a car and a half from a dig to 120mph. Something is wrong with that car. He should have *** raped me. Not saying this example applies to all Mustangs, but just saying.

When the day ends, we all are modern muscle car guys and love to take our cars out to eat; for some rice!

a 97 ws6 isn't your average lt1 either though
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC '00
After reading through a number of your posts I see your very good at taking the quickest stock 99-04 GT time and comparing them to average/slowest times of other cars. I would like for you to post up a stock timeslip of your car right now, seriously. Bet it doesn't say 13.9...or 13. anything for that matter. 99-04 GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all. Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels. And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's.
+12390. Most GT's I see running at the track are mid 14's, sometimes low 14's.
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The lowest time I've seen for a stock 99-04 GT is 13.7, btw. Tons of people run 13.9s.
If the fastest time is 13.7, most of them will be low-mid 14s.. Most that I see run that exact time, which is a very good race for an lt1 with an lt1 having an advantage the longer the race goes on.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 01:43 AM
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my car wasnt always cammed you know. the only time i have bee beaten by ANY n/a mustang i was bone stock, just bought the car. the other was an 06 gt with full bolt ons

in case you were wondering my bone stock time was 13.7 on 18s with a 2.0 60ft and it was at least 100 degrees out. i figure this based on the fact that i had to keep a towel on my hand to soak up the sweat so my hand wouldnt slip off the shifter.

the same night at the track, there were 2 99-04 gts. one stock, other intake and exhaust. i dont remember what the stock one was running, but i ran the modded one and he lost by running a 13.9
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The lowest time I've seen for a stock 99-04 GT is 13.7, btw. Tons of people run 13.9s.
Not very many people though. My best friend owns an '04 GT. And the best he could manage was a 14.0@99, with CAI, OR Prochamber midpipe, Flowmaster catback, and short throw shifter, with 2.0-2.1 60' times. And that was in -200DA. He can bang gears better than about anyone I know too.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 02:44 AM
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If he really is that good, and the DA was that low, and the car was that modified, there had to be something wrong with it. Those mods should have him ~250rwhp, and anyone can tell you that a 3300lb car with 3.27s with that power should be able to do better than 14.0 @ 99mph. That's a really good time for a stock New Edge GT.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 03:27 AM
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lawl at the 99-04 GT's pwning LT1's comments. best stock time for an LT1 is a 13.4 and most LT1 drivers with a decent 60 can get in the high 13's no big deal.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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i had a full bolton LT1, but never ran it at the track or raced anything but a turbo 240sx and beat it by a car.

but to add to the fire... LOL

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC '00
After reading through a number of your posts I see your very good at taking the quickest stock 99-04 GT time and comparing them to average/slowest times of other cars.
Uh no. The quickest a stock GT gets isn't 13.9
GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all.
Go to moddedmustangs.com. Full of stock NewEdgers running from 13.8 to 14.0. I took the medium number between the two. The fastest I've seen a stock 2v GT run in the 1/4 was 13.6
Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels.
I think I said a stock GT and a LT1 was an even race. I haven't been beaten by one yet, but they are still an even race. I don't roll race BTW.
And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's.
Depends on the mods for each car...with the right money, you can make any car faster than another.

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
I'm well aware what the majority of people run. It was in response to the "quickest stock 99-04 GT time" comment. Just merely saying that 13.9 isn't the quickest time.
Thank you. I'd love to mention that I see stock LS1 cars run high 13s to mid 14s at the track too. I would never say that's the norm. I am not referring to people that don't know how to drive their cars.
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Not to start ****, but my LT1 in its current pathetic slow form eats GT's. Even the newer ones.
But yours isn't stock. That was what we were referring to. Congrats on the.. fastish LT1.
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Some of the fastest fbodies are blown. Are they not real men?
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+12390. Most GT's I see running at the track are mid 14's, sometimes low 14's.
No doubt in my mind. LIke I said, I saw a 500rwhp Lt1 run on pasttimes and layed down a 15 second flat time. Another person in a 2008 GT ran 14.8 down it.

When I am referring to 1/4 times, I am referring to those that know how to drive these cars. I've beaten a few stock ls1 Camaros in my 2v, but I would NEVER SAY my car was faster. I beat the driver that didn't know how to drive. But even then, I barely took em.
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If the fastest time is 13.7, most of them will be low-mid 14s..
Could you show us how you got to that number mathematically? Not bashing you or anything, but it sounds made up on the spot.
Having said that, there are a lot f people out there that can't drive. I wouldn't claim GTs were good for low mid 14s knowing those people can't drive. With a proper driver, a 2v can hit the 13.7/13.9 range. It happens all the time. I've seen GTs with boltons running 11s.

Originally Posted by tspence45
Not very many people though. My best friend owns an '04 GT. And the best he could manage was a 14.0@99, with CAI, OR Prochamber midpipe, Flowmaster catback, and short throw shifter, with 2.0-2.1 60' times. And that was in -200DA. He can bang gears better than about anyone I know too.
I know people running mid 13s with that setup. Either he is way high up, he don't know how to drive, or his car is broke. That CERTAINLY isn't the norm.

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC '00
After reading through a number of your posts I see your very good at taking the quickest stock 99-04 GT time and comparing them to average/slowest times of other cars.
Uh no. The quickest a stock GT gets isn't 13.9
GT's run 14's, period - with the exception of a few cars over the years dipping into the 13's stock in excellent conditions, low DA and all.
Go to moddedmustangs.com. Full of stock NewEdgers running from 13.8 to 14.0. I took the medium number between the two. The fastest I've seen a stock 2v GT run in the 1/4 was 13.6
Any stock LT1 car makes for a good quarter-mile race for a GT, and an LT1 will have the advantage from a roll anyday simply because they put more power down to the rear-wheels.
I think I said a stock GT and a LT1 was an even race. I haven't been beaten by one yet, but they are still an even race. I don't roll race BTW.
And once you start modding the two the LT1 car will run away. LT1's are just like LS1's; they don't need power adders to run 10's and 9's.
Depends on the mods for each car...with the right money, you can make any car faster than another.

BTW I have a trademark on the word "LAWL" as I made it up about 5 years ago. I did a search on the net, and couldn't find anyone saying it. Funny how it's made its way around since then.

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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2v's run 13's just like mach1's run 13.1's and ls1's run 12.8's
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Originally Posted by big hammer
2v's run 13.6's just like mach1's run 13.1's and ls1's run 12.8's
Fixed that to be a bit more honest. If the other two cars you are referring to consistently run those times stock, then you'd have a point. But we know that's not the case. I don't know why some in here think running high 13s in a stock 2v is rare. Especially since that car rated at 14 flat in the quarter mile by MOST car magazines etc. So yeah. a .1 of a second isn't that hard to believe. Most stock SRT4s are rated in 14-14.1, but most people I know run them stock in the 13s.



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