So you can show the forum what parts of my post weren't sensical?

BTW I've had so many private messages from regulars in here telling me how this forum needed more Mustang posters like myself.

I've been going on and on and on about how the 02 WS6 TransAm was my favorite pony car of that era. Being that I have a 02 GT, that should speak volumes. Is my car fast? No way. It's dead stock. The first time I ran it I got a 14.1. The second and third times were 13.9s. Is that fast? hell no. Are fbodies in general usually faster? Hell yes. I have great respect for fbodies. But that seemed to be lost on some of you simply because I mentioned 2v GTs doing 13.9s.

I mean come on comments like this are absurd

Why the hell would I do that? If you are trying to project that I am some Ford fanboy, you are barking up the wrong tree.

As far as the moddedmustang boards go, we too have quiet a bit of Fbody owners posting there as well.

And they ALL get respect. We make fun of the Mustang guys that are lying about how they beat this and that LS1 on a stock 2v all teh time.

 

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BTW

"Originally Posted by Ke^in
So you can show the forum what parts of my post weren't sensical? "

I'll take your response as a big "No"

 

I'll have to do a little research to find it. I think it was in an article of GMHTP a while back, or something.

EDIT: Ok, found it. According to GMHTP, a bolt-on is any modifaction that doesn't touch motor oil, aside from power-adders and rocker arms. http://car.pszweb.com/gmhtp_bolt-on_article.htm

 

I am not being smarmy when I asked that BTW. I am HONESTLY looking for such rules. Thanks ahead of time.

Edit: Thanks, now I can show a few Mustang owners that claim they have "only boltons" that new heads, even if you BOLTED THEM ON, are not bolt-ons..

 

BTW I looked at said person's stats again. I mistaken it for being a bolt-on only car. My bad. It's a 2v N/A automatic. Not only bolt-ons, but it's still N/A. I realize LS1 cars have been doing this with no problems. Fbodies have a better engine that takes to mods a lot better. I realize this.

 

Found it and edited my last post and put it in there.

 

Yeah I saw it. I think I might edit it into a PDF with "Pages" so it's easier to read.

 

Dude hell be smoking your *** w/ a lid and a catback. You have a shitload of mods man, if it makes you happy to beat a stock Ls1 so be it...lol

 

That would be common knowledge.. Look at the fastest stock ls1 time... Do most people run anything remotely close to that? No.. Just like any other model vehicle.. If the fastest one runs XX.XX, most of the others will run .4-.8 slower than that one. You have to think not only of driver but of track/DA/etc etc etc.

The majority that I have seen run are in the 14.1-14.3 range.. Could they hit a 13 in a different situation with a different driver? Maybe, but they didn't. Most GTs are 14 second cars, just like most ls1s are 13 second cars.. I would say there are as many 12 second ls1s as there are 13 second GTs.

 

just to clarify, the bolt on record for lt1s is 11.3 i believe. i have personally raced a bolt on only lt1 car that runs 11.9s. hes on this site but i forgot his name

 

Is the 11.3 pass the one that was being argued because it was switched to a carb intake though? Because, I heard that there was one faster than 1slowformula, who ran the 11.5, but it was being disputed because of the carb.

 

Ok, this is just getting silly. ...
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Again, I see more LSx cars doing 14 seconds than I do 13. LOW LOW 14 second cars. I would never say that those cars are 14s cars. Like I gave an example earlier, most people I see with "stock" cars on past time, or on the local track run a ton slower than the car is able to.
And I certainly would not. Go to an actual mustang board. TIMESLIPPED links show mostly high 13s. I'm just confumbulated that the GT is rated at 14.0 seconds, yet I am being told people running 13.9 is rare. However, you think a Z28, which is rated at about 13.5 can get .5 seconds faster more often than a 2v GT can get .1 faster.

The logic just doesn't add up.

There are PLENTY of 2v GTs getting high 13s stock. Is it the norm? No. Either is mid 13s in a LS1. Most people hit 14s that don't know how to drive. Which is the majority of people.

As far as those that know how to drive, mid to low 13s for the LS1, and high 13s for the 2v. That's just how it is.

I really have no reason to lie. And others in here that have owned 2v stangs have said the same thing to you in this very thread.

I myself have only ran my car 3 times on a 1/4 track just because I was curious. My car wont be a 1/4 beast. Just a fun daily driver. In the 3 passes I made, the FIRST one was 14.1, the last two were in the 13.9 range. While I am not the BEST driver (There are much better out there I am sure) I had no problems getting 13.9s. And I don't even have DRs. Put a set of DRs or Mickeys on a stock GT and you'll see the ability for high mid 13s.

 

Post timeslips or it never happened.

 

I own both... and totally favour my LTx car. I love the torqueness of the LTx! On the street, I have raced a lot of LS1s from a lot of different rolls, and have won most with my current setup. I believe most were stock (with exhaust only). I was pretty impressed when I raced my buddy in his '99 SSM SS from a 70 roll on I-696 to 120 MPH. I had him by a car the whole time. He looked over at me at the end with a pretty confused look on his face. I love my '95 to pieces!

 

the funny thing is both lt1 and ls1 owners say the same thing that they never(or barely) lost to each other cars(lt1 never lost to ls and ls never lost to lt)

IMO ls1 engine response better mod for mod. i had ls1 before and i've never seen an engine that response to mod that well(i'm talking about chevrolet) and cost relatively cheap.

just my .02

 

LS1 definitely respond to mods better than the LT1. The issue for us is a lack of aftermarket now since we are sadly a dying breed. I do not see too many clean LTx's where I'm from. LS1's have greater top end. I LOVE the low end of my LT1 though. I guess I just need to add some boost for top end

I've considered GTOs but I just don't know. I'll most likely go with a G8 GXP or C6

 

the ls1 is a better engine. but the lt1 i believe is also under rated. they do have good potential but it's just plain easier to get power from an ls1

 

You don't see too many clean LTx's anywhere. That's one thing that makes me regret getting rid of mine. It wasn't perfect, but way cleaner than any others in the area. And I have to agree, I prefered the low end of the LT1, compared to my LS1. I think the way my LT1 was setup, it'd give my LS1 a hard time on the topend of things even.

 

I agree. You have to go that extra mile with an LT1 to get the kind of power you can out of an LS1 with very little.