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Old 12-14-2009, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdIsTheWord
Whats done is...

CAI, plenom, tb, longtubes, no cats, lm1 exhaust, 3.73 gears, balding et streets, underdrive pulleys, tuned by psi motorsports

Ran 12.77 @ 106, 1.71 60ft on stock suspension.
Wonder why it is that a lot of people in here claim that S197s are slow then.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Wonder why it is that a lot of people in here claim that S197s are slow then.
They are quite slow stock, and it takes a lot of mods to wake them up. Before my dad (realized his mistake) sold his 06 GT we ran a few times, it was just embarrassing. And i also ran a FULL exhaust 5 speed 07 GT, that had a CAI, top end and tune from every possible roll and even a dig and i just freight trained on him. After running they inspected my car saying no way was i stock. Me and passenger just laughed through out this whole ordeal.

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Old 12-14-2009, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by black_phoenix
that A3 is really hurting you up top...
it'l hurt you more on the bottom. th350's have high 1'st and 2nd gears

3rd is the same-- 1:1
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Old 12-14-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Any 99-04 GT that runs 12.7 has more than minor bolt ons. Someone is lying to you.
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Wonder why it is that a lot of people in here claim that S197s are slow then.
because they are. There's no way in hell you are getting S197's to run mid-low 12's with just boltons. Like trying to squeeze orange juice out of a rock: aint gonna happen unless they guy squeezing is lying about whats in his hands. "Sure, it's just a rock and I'm squeezing orange juice out of it. What, you don't believe me?"
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
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because they are. There's no way in hell you are getting S197's to run mid-low 12's with just boltons. Like trying to squeeze orange juice out of a rock: aint gonna happen unless they guy squeezing is lying about whats in his hands. "Sure, it's just a rock and I'm squeezing orange juice out of it. What, you don't believe me?"
bolt ons means something different to stang owners. to them it means gears, suspension, driveshaft, clutch, anything on the engine but not in, full weight reduction and no a\c or power steering and full slicks.

i got into an argument with a stang guy that said "bolt on" s197 can run 11's. i said no way in ****.

turns out if you put over 6k of "bolt on" parts, reduce weight and eliminate accessories they can run 11.9's. but they wouldn't reveal the trap speed for some reason.
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11.9 at 110mph is why. lol

A magnacharger 'bolts on' to my engine so that counts, too? Hell, I got a vehicle that only puts out 176rwhp and with one of my lighter friends riding it runs low 9's: mid 8's with gears, air shifter, swing arm extensions, slick, MR09 gas and one of my 140lb friends riding it. Only a idiot would call it 'basic mods' though: and thats what calling a car 'boltons' means to me--- Basic Mods.
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When you are talking about bolt ons you have to use alittle bit of common sense. If you are flat out stupid then your idea of bolt ons will not be the same as someone with intelligence. Truth is the term "bolt ons" is just that, a term. I has no real meaning past what two people agree it means.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
because they are. There's no way in hell you are getting S197's to run mid-low 12's with just boltons. Like trying to squeeze orange juice out of a rock: aint gonna happen unless they guy squeezing is lying about whats in his hands. "Sure, it's just a rock and I'm squeezing orange juice out of it. What, you don't believe me?"
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come on, your on that forum...sweet2kstang and f8tlgt were both running 12.80's...

and you can't go off of what one car runs...because there are many bolt on s197's running a heck of a lot better than 12.9...like low-mid 12's
There are quiet a few kill stories with modded 3v and modded LS1 and 2010 Camaros with vids cars over that the modded mustang site.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Someone already showed were it was happening so....
What is bolt ons to you and what makes you think a car that makes around 300rwhp with bolt ons and weighs 3500lbs will run mid 12's?
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
What is bolt ons to you and what makes you think a car that makes around 300rwhp with bolt ons and weighs 3500lbs will run mid 12's?
Re-read my post. I wasn't the one that said it. Having said that, I know of many bolt-on 3v GTs that are more than 300rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
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because they are. There's no way in hell you are getting S197's to run mid-low 12's with just boltons. Like trying to squeeze orange juice out of a rock: aint gonna happen unless they guy squeezing is lying about whats in his hands. "Sure, it's just a rock and I'm squeezing orange juice out of it. What, you don't believe me?"
lol your clueless...there are tons of s197's running mid 12's with bolt ons...this must be the only site you visit. as well as bolt on 2v's hitting 12's. i posted several, and one of them was a member of this freakin site with an ls1! posted a video as well and there are two more guys off the top of my head on the other forum running 12's bolt on only...

s197's nothing special stock. just like the ls1. run mid-low 13's with a good driver.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-new-best.html
and ran 13.5 on his first trip to the track

another guy on the forum ran 13.0 with his stock s197

how about this?
http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ght-track.html

how about this??
http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...nt-videos.html
oh and by the way that car ended up going 12.5 as well later on...before he went vortech

clueless as i said
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Originally Posted by 06 6.0 GTO
They are quite slow stock, and it takes a lot of mods to wake them up. Before my dad (realized his mistake) sold his 06 GT we ran a few times, it was just embarrassing. And i also ran a FULL exhaust 5 speed 07 GT, that had a CAI, top end and tune from every possible roll and even a dig and i just freight trained on him. After running they inspected my car saying no way was i stock. Me and passenger just laughed through out this whole ordeal.
PLease clarify 'top end'.

THose familiar with pushrods and not modulars aren't going to understand the difference an improperly timed cam job can make. A/M cams have to be degreed properly to be worth a ****......and most just slap them in without degreeing them. Ignorance at it's finest.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
PLease clarify 'top end'.

THose familiar with pushrods and not modulars aren't going to understand the difference an improperly timed cam job can make. A/M cams have to be degreed properly to be worth a ****......and most just slap them in without degreeing them. Ignorance at it's finest.
My mistake should have just said ported intake manifold.
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Originally Posted by 06 6.0 GTO
My mistake should have just said ported intake manifold.
you talk a lot of **** for someone who hasnt broken into the 12's.
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I'm lost, are we trying to discuss why 2v's are slow?
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lol must be. it doesn't matter what anyone has done. its IMPOSSIBLE to get a bolt on 2v in the 12's. no one on earth has EVER done it....(/sarcasm/)
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep
lol must be. it doesn't matter what anyone has done. its IMPOSSIBLE to get a bolt on 2v in the 12's. no one on earth has EVER done it....(/sarcasm/)
guys who think that bolt on 2v's cant regularily run 12's are retarded. you just bolt on a blower or nitrous and away you go!
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
you talk a lot of **** for someone who hasnt broken into the 12's.
What can i say i talk only from what i have experianced. Lost to many a terminator yes, but never a new edge or s197, hell and my dad had one so i experianced those first hand.

Also im a stock GTO i dont expect 12s, i didnt buy the car to go fast in a straight line. But when a few of my friends were going to the dragstrip i tagged along, i personally dont think its too bad of a time since it was my second time at a drag strip ever and first time with the GTO. (last time was a swapped civic lol)
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Originally Posted by 06 6.0 GTO
What can i say i talk only from what i have experianced. Lost to many a terminator yes, but never a new edge or s197, hell and my dad had one so i experianced THAT ONE first hand.
Fixed.

Beating one, doesn't mean you can beat them all.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Fixed.

Beating one, doesn't mean you can beat them all.
I beat a lot more then one, didnt beat them all, nor did i ever state that i could.
Heres a vid of me (stock) vs the GT i was talking about 0 to 150mph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6MwHPMafx0
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