Ke^in

Not that it matters. Lets just drop it.

I've always wondered just how much HP that shaker hood scoop in the Mach1 makes. I heard it was almost worthless. Shame if that's the case.

big hammer

he says 2v's are 13sec cars. i'm not saying ls1's are 12 sec cars.

a 2v MIGHT hit 13.9 just like an ls1 MIGHT hit 12.9. but it's not what they normally run.

big hammer

who cares if it makes hp. it looks good. just like the ram air on a t\a

ponygt65

I was just startin' to like yuo too....go back to your drunk posting.

You continue to show your inexperience, ignorance, and lack of knowledge on mustangs (particularly 4V's) the more you post. I'm starting to think you have never seen one run and going off of what your friends tell you. Even those that have OWNED the cars are telling you how wrong you are, and you continue to tell them that they are liars. That's absolutely rediculous man. I mean seriously, that would be like me telling you how FOS you are that an M6 LS runs low low 13s. I've never seen it. So..everyone and their mother must be lying to me.

Now...that's the smartest, best post you've had in this thread.


yes Kevin, the don't really do much. You can increase the shaker height to get some performance, but it has to be roughly a 1" increase over stock. YOu can also modify the stock air box to increase air intake, but over all (without mods) it's pretty much for looks.

Stopsign32v

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who cares?????

Stopsign32v

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The shaker does work. when I installed the JLT intake the stock paper filter was very dirty right where the shaker goes. Now does the shaker HELP performance? No...

ponygt65

well yeah.

actually, I'd love to see Big hammer give an explenation. he's the mach expert in here.

big hammer

there's a guy ON THIS SITE WHO HAS OWNED BOTH CARS says the ls1 is a faster car. yet you ignore that. why is that? you're the one ignoring facts, not me.
you're here. you care.

Stopsign32v

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Because what this one guy on here says determines whats true or false.

Like Pony said, I've actually liked you but you are starting to change my mind.

ponygt65

There's ONE guy on here that has owned both that says that....you CONTINUE to ignore the fact that there are SEVERAL that have owned both and say they are a drivers race and identical in performance. HELLO MCFLY!!!

I've owned two *******' machs and a cobra, dont' tell me what they can and can't do when you've never ******* owned one.

ponygt65

you are also forgetting those that ahve raced the machs themselves that are telling you that. There are WAY more Fbod owners that disagree with you than you are willing to acknowledge. THAT is called denial.

ponygt65

OH...AND....if memory serves me correctly, that ONE owner that states that, never raced Both cars at the track. he's going by SOTP.

big hammer

you can believe the guy you want, i'll believe the guy i want based on experience and facts. just because truth hurts your feelings doesnt mean you cant like me! i still offer hugs.
good for you for owning 4vs. by buddy has a 4v n\a cobra and have worked on it with him. i've also driven it alot.

fact is you will believe who you like. because you WANT to believe what you want. you offer no facts that a mach is the exact equal to an m6 ls1 other than "you're stupid" or "i own a mach" well so what?

FACT is a manual mach is close to a manual ls1, but the ls1 is a little faster. but i just say this based on the fact that i have beat machs, ls1's can trap faster speeds and run quicker times.

you stang guys say they're equal just to feel good. well go ahead and keep living in your delusions if it keeps you happy.

Ke^in

That's what I figured. Thanks.

Stopsign32v

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Because a 4v n/a Cobra is a Mach 1. How old are you anyways? JW...

Stopsign32v

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Do you understand what the term "driver's race" really means? No one on here said they were equal. The LS1 will make more power no doubt however the Mach 1 with it's transmission gearing and rear gear makes up for it from a dead stop. This is why at the drag strip and on the road we all say its a driver's race. Now getting to what that means because I feel you seriously need this explained to you... Driver's race does not mean both cars are equal. What it means is they are so close that if one or the other has a driver that is not as good as the one in the other car then he may very well lose. I really hope this sinks in for you and you can get over this Mustang bashing you have been doing.

Ke^in

I'd personally say a LS1 fbody does have a slight advantage over a Mach1. Especially at speeds over 110. Having said that, it all depends on who the best driver is between these two cars. Too close to call.

<edit> Posted this before the post above showed up. Agreed

big hammer

he made a mention that i had inexperience with 4v's. not specifically mach 1's. keep reaching.

Stopsign32v

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Please read the post above yours.

big hammer

i understand the concept of "drivers race" and will continue to maintain that it is a silly saying. all in all most races are dependent on the drivers capabilities. you can beat a termi with a 2v if the termis driver sucks.

i havent been bashing mustangs. i have just been stating facts. i havent said your car sucks or ponys car sucks. you just have a problem with the facts i have been presenting. and since you cant put holes in the facts i have been presenting, you just say i'm "mustang bashing"