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Old 05-25-2010, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by redctsv
long story short first run i missed 3rd, 2nd run from a 30 roll, til i let off at then end of my 4th (130) i got walked by about 5-6 lengths. As soon as my buddy sends me the vid i will post it up.
I still dont think a cam only cts V could keep up with the zo6 at all. It would be more like 8 to 10 cars.
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Hey buddy i dont know what to tell you, WE all though for sure the Z06 was going to pull me hard, I did a video the night before the race to see what my 60 to 150mph is, I know Im in the LOW 3sec range 0 to 60, and from 60 to 150 only takes my car around 14 sec. So 3+14 puts me around the 17sec range 0 to 150. So after i showed my dad that he was like humm.. well i think this will be close lol.
here is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jk730d5IvI
and here is a video of my car at byron, just the speedo, sorry for the zoom in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASgNJ...eature=channel

I think the big yank PT 4400 converter eats some of my mph in the 1/4 mile.


To be honest, im not sure yet, Im still undecided if i want to pull the trigger and install the Stroker 416cid, or Just sell the GTO and get a Z06, You can find a 2006 C6 Z06 pretty darn cheap now a days and same with a C5 Z06. Still not sure, I love the GTO to death, have had it since 07 new, and has been a blast to build and drive. But when its all said and done its still just a GTO lol. A sleeper GTO that is
Aside from the traction issues, you can really see how a car accelerates using the widely used 60-130mph times. By timing your speedometer you can see you are right around 9 seconds.

Just to give you an idea of how fast a 9 second 60-130 mph time is, compare it to the cars on the following list. You can see you are quicker than a Gallardo, F430, GTR, GT500 etc. You are pretty much dead even with the slower time in my 335i. (9.0 sec 60-130, 11.7 @ 124mph 1/4) That is street trim. 32mpg hwy, stock mufflers/rear cat, etc. My fastest time on the list (6.9 sec 60-130, 11.33 @ 132.7mph 1/4) . Note, one of the fastest stock Z06 times was around 7.8 secs, but its totally plausible with a passenger, etc, it might be in the high 8's, and therefore pretty even with your car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cfE...eature=related

*3.53 - Underground Racing TT Gallardo, 1,300 rwhp, 2-shifts
*3.54 - Bob Helms, TT Viper
*3.93 - 931 rwhp Supra, 88mm turbo, TH400 Auto, ET Drags
*4.09 - Acicchelli / TT Gallardo / 1-shift
*4.52 - jbsteven / SC&TT Ford GT 994 rwhp / 1-shift
*4.53 - HoustonT / 880 rwhp Supra / 1-shift
*4.87 - Oz / Supra / 1-shift
4.8 - 900 rwhp Supra (88GT47, TH400, no NOS, drag radials)
4.9 - 940 rwhp Supra (35 psi)
5.1 - 840 rwhp Supra (30 psi)
*5.14 - Hllywood / TT Viper / 93 octane/ 2-shifts
*5.26 - 997 GT3 RS TURBO / 1-shift
*5.27 – Lil Powell / C5 Vette with big motor and NOS
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
5.6 - Bugatti Veyron
*5.72 - Subaru Impreza GC8, built motor, big turbo and 100 shot of nitrous
*5.8 - Ford GT, Whipple S/C, 780 rwhp, 1-shift
*5.88 - Blacksheep / Supercharged C6 Z51 Corvette / 1-shift
5.9 - GSXR 1000 with bolt-ons
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.6 - Ford Cobra, Whipple S/C at 22 psi
*6.65 - Acicchelli / Renntech SLR
*6.89 - Vrybad / C5 Z06TT (APS Turbo, no cats, stock muffler, 573 rwhp @ 9.5 psi) / 1-shift
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
6.95-Hotrod 182/BMW 335i/JB3/.28 dryshot
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
*7.06 - C6 Z06; intake, tune, headers, cam, no cats, 560 rwhp, 2-shifts
*7.24 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
*7.25 - Stock 997 GT2 / 1-shift
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.3 - Ferrari Enzo
*7.48 - Acicchelli / Renntech SL65 AMG
*7.59 - Blacksheep / C6 Corvette Z51 (heads/cam, 484 rwhp) / 2-shifts
*7.66 - 996 TT 'S' with K16/24 Hybrids, 4th gear pull only
*7.74 - HoustonT / GT-R / 640 HP (downpipes, y-pipe, BC, hard IC pipes, custom tune)
*7.75 - Shelby GT500, Kenne Bell, 700+ rwhp, 1-shift
*7.85 - Acicchelli / Stock LP640 / 2-shifts
7.8 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
*7.86 - Divexxtreme / Stock C6 Z06 / 2-shifts
7.9 - RX7, turbocharged (GT35), 360+ rwhp -
*8.24 - DrivenAgain / CL600 AMG
*8.45 - TMC CL65 / Kleeman CL65
*8.46 - Dads C63 / Bolt-On C63 AMG
9.09 - hotrod182 / 335i w/ JB3 piggyback ECU / 2-shifts
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane)
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Porsche 997TT
9.6 - Ferrari F50
*9.92 - Byzantine / '06 Gallardo 6-MT, 2-shifts
*9.9 - Lamborghini Gallardo, stock, 2006, 6-MT, 2-shifts
*10.1 - Ferrari F430
*10.48 - C63 AMG with headers and flash
*10.72- Acicchelli / Cayenne Turbo S GT700
*10.93- Acicchelli / Stock Mercedes E63 / Auto
*10.97- WK446 / Nissan GT-R with updated Launch Control firmware
11.0 - Shelby GT500, stock, 2-shifts
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
11.81- HoustonT / Stock Lexus IS-F / Sequential
13.77- Acicchelli / Bentley GTC / Auto
14.39- Acicchelli / Stock Mercedes ML63 / Auto

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Originally Posted by Hotrod182
Aside from the traction issues, you can really see how a car accelerates using the widely used 60-130mph times. By timing your speedometer you can see you are right around 9 seconds.

Just to give you an idea of how fast a 9 second 60-130 mph time is, compare it to the cars on the following list. You can see you are quicker than a Gallardo, F430, GTR, GT500 etc. You are pretty much dead even with the slower time in my 335i. (9.0 sec 60-130, 11.7 @ 124mph 1/4) That is street trim. 32mpg hwy, stock mufflers/rear cat, etc. My fastest time on the list (6.9 sec 60-130, 11.33 @ 132.7mph 1/4) . Note, one of the fastest stock Z06 times was around 7.8 secs, but its totally plausible with a passenger, etc, it might be in the high 8's, and therefore pretty even with your car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cfE...eature=related

*3.53 - Underground Racing TT Gallardo, 1,300 rwhp, 2-shifts
*3.54 - Bob Helms, TT Viper
*3.93 - 931 rwhp Supra, 88mm turbo, TH400 Auto, ET Drags
*4.09 - Acicchelli / TT Gallardo / 1-shift
*4.52 - jbsteven / SC&TT Ford GT 994 rwhp / 1-shift
*4.53 - HoustonT / 880 rwhp Supra / 1-shift
*4.87 - Oz / Supra / 1-shift
4.8 - 900 rwhp Supra (88GT47, TH400, no NOS, drag radials)
4.9 - 940 rwhp Supra (35 psi)
5.1 - 840 rwhp Supra (30 psi)
*5.14 - Hllywood / TT Viper / 93 octane/ 2-shifts
*5.26 - 997 GT3 RS TURBO / 1-shift
*5.27 – Lil Powell / C5 Vette with big motor and NOS
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
5.6 - Bugatti Veyron
*5.72 - Subaru Impreza GC8, built motor, big turbo and 100 shot of nitrous
*5.8 - Ford GT, Whipple S/C, 780 rwhp, 1-shift
*5.88 - Blacksheep / Supercharged C6 Z51 Corvette / 1-shift
5.9 - GSXR 1000 with bolt-ons
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.6 - Ford Cobra, Whipple S/C at 22 psi
*6.65 - Acicchelli / Renntech SLR
*6.89 - Vrybad / C5 Z06TT (APS Turbo, no cats, stock muffler, 573 rwhp @ 9.5 psi) / 1-shift
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
6.95-Hotrod 182/BMW 335i/JB3/.28 dryshot
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
*7.06 - C6 Z06; intake, tune, headers, cam, no cats, 560 rwhp, 2-shifts
*7.24 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
*7.25 - Stock 997 GT2 / 1-shift
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.3 - Ferrari Enzo
*7.48 - Acicchelli / Renntech SL65 AMG
*7.59 - Blacksheep / C6 Corvette Z51 (heads/cam, 484 rwhp) / 2-shifts
*7.66 - 996 TT 'S' with K16/24 Hybrids, 4th gear pull only
*7.74 - HoustonT / GT-R / 640 HP (downpipes, y-pipe, BC, hard IC pipes, custom tune)
*7.75 - Shelby GT500, Kenne Bell, 700+ rwhp, 1-shift
*7.85 - Acicchelli / Stock LP640 / 2-shifts
7.8 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
*7.86 - Divexxtreme / Stock C6 Z06 / 2-shifts
7.9 - RX7, turbocharged (GT35), 360+ rwhp -
*8.24 - DrivenAgain / CL600 AMG
*8.45 - TMC CL65 / Kleeman CL65
*8.46 - Dads C63 / Bolt-On C63 AMG
9.09 - hotrod182 / 335i w/ JB3 piggyback ECU / 2-shifts
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane)
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Porsche 997TT
9.6 - Ferrari F50
*9.92 - Byzantine / '06 Gallardo 6-MT, 2-shifts
*9.9 - Lamborghini Gallardo, stock, 2006, 6-MT, 2-shifts
*10.1 - Ferrari F430
*10.48 - C63 AMG with headers and flash
*10.72- Acicchelli / Cayenne Turbo S GT700
*10.93- Acicchelli / Stock Mercedes E63 / Auto
*10.97- WK446 / Nissan GT-R with updated Launch Control firmware
11.0 - Shelby GT500, stock, 2-shifts
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
11.81- HoustonT / Stock Lexus IS-F / Sequential
13.77- Acicchelli / Bentley GTC / Auto
14.39- Acicchelli / Stock Mercedes ML63 / Auto
Thank you for the info, ill have to get my name added to the list , Your car really moves out! Im sure its a blast to drive
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Originally Posted by SLOW GTO
Thank you for the info, ill have to get my name added to the list , Your car really moves out! Im sure its a blast to drive
Your car must launch like a bat out of hell! I just ordered some NTO5r drag radials. I'm really excited to see how they compare with the Hoosiers that I have worn down to the cords. I do a lot of testing. On my street tires, my 60 times seem to hover around 2.1-2.2 sec. With the NT555r I was around 1.9-2.0r. At the track the Hoosiers have been anywhere from 1.7-1.9x. If I can get consistent 1.8-1.9s at the track with a tire I can to and from the track, I will be happy.
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I was under the impression that 60-130mph was supposed to be STARTED at 60mph, not ACCELLERATED THRU from a lower speed? dunno... ??
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
I was under the impression that 60-130mph was supposed to be STARTED at 60mph, not ACCELLERATED THRU from a lower speed? dunno... ??
No, that would leave too many variables on the start. Reaction time, speedometer error, engine throttle response, etc. Bottom line is that you want to get the quickest 60-130mph time possible in your car. Most people start around 50mph or so. You can start from a stop if you want, like I do sometimes, but then that only warms up your IATs, etc, so it might make your times slower.

Cars with good power/weight ratios and trap speeds shine in the 60-130. Other cars which seem pretty quick stock because of their 0-60 times such as the Lotus Elise, Evo, STi, (but have lower trap speeds) generally don't do to well in this test. The cars at the top of this list are the kinds of cars that will do really good in every day encounters on the fwy etc. Which is a good indicator, since most of us don't usually line up next to someone at an intersection, do full warm up burnouts, etc, to race properly from a dig. But all else the same, these same cars with proper traction will tear up the 1/4 mile pretty good too.

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I would love to see the videos promised!!!! Vids or ban!! This video was shot saturday night and it is wednesday already. post up video of spanking!
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HMMM..60 to 130 mph hugh...
Im gonna have to try that out..And weres the vid gosh darnit!
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Originally Posted by Killemall
HMMM..60 to 130 mph hugh...
Im gonna have to try that out..And weres the vid gosh darnit!
It would be very cool to see a video, or Vbox of your car going 60-130mph!
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OK Ill do it in a few days..Ive got an FX2 timer as well as camera mount ect....

I know before I did the exhaust/tune/light weight fly wheel/light weight underdrive pulley I could get 0-60 in 3.9-4.1 and could run 11.8-12.1 at 119-122 mph

So I thik that back then I would need aprox 13.5 seconds total to hit 130 mph..minus the 4.0 seconds to hit 60 mph..

So aprox 9.5 seconds maybe back then? Nothing special whats so ever compared to that list.

Cant wait to see what she can do!
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Originally Posted by ws6fitz
I would love to see the videos promised!!!! Vids or ban!! This video was shot saturday night and it is wednesday already. post up video of spanking!
It was fimed with my friends camera, he has the vids and soon as i get it i will post it up.
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I think my 60 to 150 is pretty quick but I can't tell if it's me going that fast or just the tires breaking loose on the street.
Hey SLO next time you're going up to Byron let me know and I'll saddle up and meet you out there. I just added some more horse and I need to see what she does on slicks and a 2 step. The only thing I don't like about Byron is the short shutdown area. I really need to install the chute.
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Originally Posted by redctsv
It was fimed with my friends camera, he has the vids and soon as i get it i will post it up.
Sounds like a party! Ill have my ready to view the raping.

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So im thinking i may never see slow gto in this video.
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Originally Posted by chasgiv3
I think my 60 to 150 is pretty quick but I can't tell if it's me going that fast or just the tires breaking loose on the street.
Hey SLO next time you're going up to Byron let me know and I'll saddle up and meet you out there. I just added some more horse and I need to see what she does on slicks and a 2 step. The only thing I don't like about Byron is the short shutdown area. I really need to install the chute.
Hey if you have facebook Slow Gto and a couple other guys on here set up a page called Bandwagon to Byron. Check it out. We are all planning on going up there soon and the date is set for June 27th. But we may go sooner then that.
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When you guys have the video, start up a new thread, it should make for some good viewing!

Hotrod182, that's a damn impressive 335i, cool video!
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Honestly we would be a good race..500 rwhp on a srt10 will only pull a stock Z06 by a 1/2 car to 1 car..I have 100 pounds weight reduction so maybe I would only be 2 cars ahead of a Z06 (got a friend with a stocker so we will test this theory soon) so being that you can run dead even with one we would be a good race..
Did you ever race your gto against your black viper?
I put about 3 lengths on a 2003 SRT10 Viper and 4 lengths on a CLK 55 AMG Mercedes about month ago in my 2002 Z06. Those cars are just to heavy. And I was all stock, Besides the Zip/Tie Mod. We did a 80-170. I didn't have my camera on me at the time. It would have been a cool video to put up.
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80-170 wat r u racing supras lol
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Originally Posted by NoTractionLS1
I put about 3 lengths on a 2003 SRT10 Viper and 4 lengths on a CLK 55 AMG Mercedes about month ago in my 2002 Z06. Those cars are just to heavy. And I was all stock, Besides the Zip/Tie Mod. We did a 80-170. I didn't have my camera on me at the time. It would have been a cool video to put up.
Jeez man 170 thats Flying! You where so close to maxing out your Zo6. 175 ish.

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Originally Posted by SLOW GTO
Jeez man 170 that Flying! You where so close to maxing out your Zo6. 175 ish.
Yeah that was the second fastest I have gone in my car. I did 173 when running from some guys with lights on top of there vehicles in L.A....The quote in my sig has to do with that story! But I am stationed in 29 Palms CA (Marine Base) and the I-10 by my base just runs straight forever (no joke). Its the best highway I have every seen so far to run on, 5 lanes each way of straightness !

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