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Old 06-14-2010, 01:56 AM
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Elevation affects some cars differently than others. Forced induction and nitrous assisted engines create their atmosphere and are usually less effected by elevation than N/A vehicles.

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OMG what a retard. I would love to see kenny bring his **** up here and run where the real racers do.
Based on this thread... I'm not convinced you'd know a real racer if he slapped you...
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You sound real smart there Mr. Internet Expert
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
Elevation affects some cars differently than others. Forced induction and nitrous assisted engines create their atmosphere and are usually less effected by elevation than N/A vehicles.
Bingo.
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Originally Posted by snake95
Oh you know...small cam, small heads, full exhaust.
308 AFR 165s, TFS 1 cam, ported lower Cobra intake, 70MM TB & MAF, shorties, ORX. Right?

So mysterious
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281 ci is more impressive than 350 ci huh? GM has been using a 4.6l in newer cars since 93.. 32 valve ohc northstar producing more power than fords pi mod motor stock. 300 hp 295 ft lbs. when i owned my seville sts i would beat up on 5.0's all day with less cubes in a heavier car, so what? it takes more money to make less cubes just as fast..who cares if it is more of a technological feat - going fast is about going fast any way you split it. http://www.chrfab.com/Engines.htm check out the engine for 18k with weiand supercharger.. 281 ci putting down 600 hp on 9 psi. drop it in a z28, bolt it to a t56 and go eat some cobras. 3300 whipple on the same engine 800 hp. fact is its cheaper to do with an ls1.
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Originally Posted by SteelCityZ
281 ci is more impressive than 350 ci huh? GM has been using a 4.6l in newer cars since 93.. 32 valve ohc northstar producing more power than fords pi mod motor stock.
Isn't that comparing a 4v to a 2v car though? I don't think that would be fair comparison. Granted the cubes are the same, but thats like comparing a 04 2v GT motor to a 04 4v Mach1. The 4v will win hands down.

To get a smaller motor to move as much air as a bigger motor it needs to have all the bells and whistles (i.e. multi valves/cams) it can get. And even then, it isn't enough to match the airflow of a larger inch motor.

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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Isn't that comparing a 4v to a 2v car though? I don't think that would be fair comparison. Granted the cubes are the same, but thats like comparing a 04 2v GT motor to a 04 4v Mach1. The 4v will win hands down.

To get a smaller motor to move as much air as a bigger motor it needs to have all the bells and whistles (i.e. multi valves/cams) it can get. And even then, it isn't enough to match the airflow of a larger inch motor.

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ok ill accept that, then again the newer 4.6L northstars are at 325 hp aswell. these motors fit nicely in fieros, and people have been doing it for as long as these engines have been available. chrfab offers the aftermarket to make a very stout 281. so northstar > 4v/2v basically.. but then again my point to bringing it up was that it is ridiculous to argue "impressiveness of smaller cubes" when its cheaper and easier to do with other bigger ci platforms.
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
308 AFR 165s, TFS 1 cam, ported lower Cobra intake, 70MM TB & MAF, shorties, ORX. Right?

So mysterious
LOL I'm guessing you either talked to Artic, gregrob or you've seen me on corral. Lower's getting ported as we speak, intake is just stock now. Before the tune I want to put on some LT's and bigger MAF...
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Originally Posted by gregrob
You sound real smart there Mr. Internet Expert
There ya go... If you have no argument against the facts... go after the person... Don't worry though... I'm not a "REAL RACER" because I don't race where you race... Of course, I don't street race. I'll let you "REAL RACERS" have all that...
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
There ya go... If you have no argument against the facts... go after the person...
Sounds like a liberal.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
Sounds like a liberal.
LMAO, so true....

What's the most power someone's got out of a 4.6L mod motor?

I know Duttweiler builds a 298ci. OHV GM single turbo deal that makes 1600hp... I don't think I've ever heard of one of the mod motors making close to that? But, I could be wrong...
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Originally Posted by Zac_Speed
LMAO, so true....

What's the most power someone's got out of a 4.6L mod motor?

I know Duttweiler builds a 298ci. OHV GM single turbo deal that makes 1600hp... I don't think I've ever heard of one of the mod motors making close to that? But, I could be wrong...
I don't know about how much power it's made, but John Mihovetz' 4V 4.6l mod motor has run a best of 6.31 @ 229mph. So, you know he's gotta be making a decent amount of power. I've heard 2300hp, it has to be somewhere around that, but I don't know how accurate it is.
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Originally Posted by Zac_Speed
LMAO, so true....

What's the most power someone's got out of a 4.6L mod motor?

I know Duttweiler builds a 298ci. OHV GM single turbo deal that makes 1600hp... I don't think I've ever heard of one of the mod motors making close to that? But, I could be wrong...
John Mihovitz made close to 2500hp using a production block and production heads. 284 ci. I think mid 6's at over 220+mph.

EDIT: Discerning beat me to it.
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
I don't know about how much power it's made, but John Mihovetz' 4V 4.6l mod motor has run a best of 6.31 @ 229mph. So, you know he's gotta be making a decent amount of power. I've heard 2300hp, it has to be somewhere around that, but I don't know how accurate it is.
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Well gotta jump in on this thread before the . I'm just so embarressed how my measly little 281 CI motor could only get me this.
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So was this motor still 4.6L? And was it 2300 or 2500?
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It was still a 4.6l Zac. The car was pretty insane in its class.
I've heard 2300hp, but I don't know. Lots of pros don't like to release numbers.

And yeah, it had B heads Bitemark. But they also had the absolute **** ported out of them by Livernois if I'm not mistaken.




And wow Newskool. That sure is pathetic...

If I got something with a mod motor, it would be an A4 Mach 1.
Too bad they're holding their value somewhat.
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
It was still a 4.6l Zac. The car was pretty insane in its class.
I've heard 2300hp, but I don't know. Lots of pros don't like to release numbers.

And yeah, it had B heads Bitemark. But they also had the absolute **** ported out of them by Livernois if I'm not mistaken.




And wow Newskool. That sure is pathetic...

If I got something with a mod motor, it would be an A4 Mach 1.
Too bad they're holding their value somewhat.
Yea they are actually. I love it though. Drives completely docile until you hit the go pedal. New motor coming this winter... 284CI and 700RWHP is the goal.
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Being that I've been a UAW Ford employee; I've got this bad thing about talking **** to all the mustang guys...(Most of them have S197s w/ exhaust and cai.) Although, I do think that properly buiilt 4v's are awesome! Once you got a motor past 1000hp you've done a good job.

Ford always was good with the OHC motors... The 429 Cammer motor was a diamond in the rough. If I won the Powerball, I'd have a 69 fastback with a big John Kaase stroker and a 6 speed...
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Originally Posted by snake95
LOL I'm guessing you either talked to Artic, gregrob or you've seen me on corral. Lower's getting ported as we speak, intake is just stock now. Before the tune I want to put on some LT's and bigger MAF...
what times have you run in your 95?
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