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06-17-2010, 04:06 PM
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I've also heard from many "tuner" guys as they like to be called that the bumper supports are removed to save weight and the bumpers are just left screwed in with cheap screws the holes are put there to keep the cover from blowing off the back of the car due to resistance.
06-17-2010, 05:03 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLOiLXc_ilw
06-17-2010, 05:15 PM
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The '00-'03 cars have gone as low as 13.7... it's the '04+ cars that have gone as low as 13.6. I don't know what to tell you about how they have gone that fast.
06-17-2010, 10:42 PM
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Well S2000s commonly ran in the 13s (most high 13s/low 14s) so it's not too hard to imagine. ~200rwhp, 4.10 diff, aggressive transmission gearing, and ~2850lbs.
06-18-2010, 01:14 AM
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Could have been like this if it had been built properly. We have a few mid-low 11sec all-motor hondas out here in so-cal, FYI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41_YoEzDFQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41_YoEzDFQ
06-18-2010, 01:52 AM
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All stock times. Anywhere from 14.5 to 13.5. Typically s2k's are not quick cars, but given someone who really knows how to drive they are not all that bad. And for whatever this is worth, driving my friends 01 Cobra with exhaust and 4.10s I only pulled about a door on what sounded like an intake and exhaust s2k from about a 30-80ish roll. I know that Cobra is in the 13's.
06-18-2010, 05:46 AM
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this is my friends stock block b16 with just a turbo set up, car does 10.7's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH2F9QHQag0
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06-19-2010, 11:42 AM
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Because as much as some people hate to admit it, Honda can build one hell of a strong motor. Just because they are slow economy purpose cars doesn't mean you can't throw boost at it and have the motor be able to handle it. You can easily run 10 pounds of boost on a stock block motor and make close to 350 whp then run close to 10's assuming you have traction and driving skills.
06-20-2010, 11:56 PM
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I sorry to say, but seeing these Hondas racing almost made me sick.. 
It always makes me think why would someone want to go fast/put money in a ugly shitbox with the worst sound ever. To each his own...
Some are better than other, but those last vids really shown the worst part of the Honda racing world!
It always makes me think why would someone want to go fast/put money in a ugly shitbox with the worst sound ever. To each his own...
Some are better than other, but those last vids really shown the worst part of the Honda racing world!
06-21-2010, 10:57 AM
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There are a number of 4 cylinder engines not made by Honda that can easily exceed that on the stock long block going back to the late 80's.
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06-21-2010, 11:17 AM
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And I was thinking about this. I love LSx powered cars and that's why I'm on this forum and don't expect everyone to love Hondas/Toyotas/Nissan etc. etc. or to even not hate them, but saying that making a Honda fast doesn't make sense because of what they were originally built for quite frankly doesn't make sense. Isn't that what modding cars is all about? Making cars do things they weren't supposed to do. I don't see any difference from making a 15 second honda run an 11 or 10 second quarter mile than making a 13 second LS1 run a 9. You're drastically altering each car, only difference is there have been people going the 8 cylinder rear wheel drive route for a lot longer than the 4 cylinder front wheel drive route. Why? yeah it's more efficient and more fun for a lot, but fact of the matter is it does come down to personal preference. Some people just like that ability to surprise.
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06-21-2010, 11:51 AM
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I.E. CA18det, SR20DET, 3S-GTE, 4G63T, EJ20, etc.
It's no surprise that the quickest 4 cylinder Honda is powered by a 4G63, not a Honda motor.
I couldn't care less what the displacement is either. All I care about is the engine's weight and power. Making a really small displacement motor powerful just seems like weak bragging rights to me. Particularly when you could build a K20/24 to handle more boost and make bigger numbers than a tiny B16.
And I was thinking about this. I love LSx powered cars and that's why I'm on this forum and don't expect everyone to love Hondas/Toyotas/Nissan etc. etc. or to even not hate them, but saying that making a Honda fast doesn't make sense because of what they were originally built for quite frankly doesn't make sense.
Isn't that what modding cars is all about? Making cars do things they weren't supposed to do. I don't see any difference from making a 15 second honda run an 11 or 10 second quarter mile than making a 13 second LS1 run a 9. You're drastically altering each car, only difference is there have been people going the 8 cylinder rear wheel drive route for a lot longer than the 4 cylinder front wheel drive route. Why? yeah it's more efficient and more fun for a lot, but fact of the matter is it does come down to personal preference. Some people just like that ability to surprise.