full exhaust Ls1 vs full exhaust '08 Mustang GT
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Not gonna quote I'm on a slow *** iPhone. But a tune on a bolt on car with gears WILL make it run better. Period. And I said walked away not run away. And yes I will get defensive when someone says something retarded like a tune won't help. A tune damn sure helps a 3v. Ls1 nit as much but it will help
Let me make this easy for you to understand:
Will it gain some all over the powerband? Yes.
Will it gain a good amount at peak numbers? Yes.
Will it give a bolt-on (M6) car 20+rwhp? No.
Did I say it will not help in anyway? No.
Read my posts again, then read it again if you cannot understand what I am saying here. You are pulling words out of your *** and putting them in my mouth.
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I was speaking of his car, which if I am assuming correctly as being a manual, would not have torque management of any kind. And on a tune giving you 20+ rwhp IN A BOLT-ON CAR. In that case, if I get an LS6 intake (most people say between 10-20hp) and a tune (you say 20+hp) would put me around 370rwhp in a bolt on car? Not happening. As I just posted, I was speaking ONLY of bolt on cars, not setups on which a tune will actually big of a large benefit (20+ definitely possible on heads/cam, cam only, FI cars).
#26
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Actually I'm just trying to incite you into a argument to pass the time as I'm sitting on a da*@n vibrating back pad hoping my nasty pulled back muscle goes away so I can go to a car meet tonite. I am not familiar with LS1 Fbodies enough to know the kind of improvement a 6spd car would get, but I'm extrapolating from what I've read and what I know the GTO's and new Vette's get from it.
I was supposed to be running a pullied Termi today, along with a cam'd GTO, but it's friggin raining...
I was supposed to be running a pullied Termi today, along with a cam'd GTO, but it's friggin raining...
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I never claimed you would pick up 20rwhp, just that the gains you would get were the same as a 20rwhp gain. Picking up midrange torque/hp, not having dropoffs on power at shifts or in lower gears (all things GM did with there computers in a vain effort to not hurt drivetrain components). All combined will/should give you at least 2 tenths improvements.
Did I say you did? No. Damn you suck at reading. No hard feelings
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Yes it would help, but walk away "ez" when you "barely pulled" the first time. Not likely, and thats what I was arguing. I would have understood what you were saying if you wouldnt have been putting words in my mouth and not understand what I was saying.
My bad, I thought you were implying tha since it would pick up 2 tenths that it would also gain the 20+hp. Thanks for clearing that up.
Did I say you did? No. Damn you suck at reading. No hard feelings
My bad, I thought you were implying tha since it would pick up 2 tenths that it would also gain the 20+hp. Thanks for clearing that up.
Did I say you did? No. Damn you suck at reading. No hard feelings
Anyways back on topic.....
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3v's are fun motors to play with and do respond pretty well to bolt on's. It's still a tiny V8 but mine holds it's own decently. Plus I like the way the 3v engines look over the new 5.0. That big plastic engine cover is hideous.
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A tune makes a helluva difference. I know when mine was running on the stock tune you coud smell how rich it was and ended up burning up the o2's. After the tune it picked up almost 2 tenths in the quarter.
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ok so i have been a member on here since 2006, i originally joined knowing that i was going to inherit a 2002 ws6 and wanted to be able to read threads on here about what mods did what, etc....now i have a stupid question for all of you that shows my car ignorance....What mods classify your ride as a BOLT ON only car?? if someone could please explain to me i would greatly appreciate it.
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ok so i have been a member on here since 2006, i originally joined knowing that i was going to inherit a 2002 ws6 and wanted to be able to read threads on here about what mods did what, etc....now i have a stupid question for all of you that shows my car ignorance....What mods classify your ride as a BOLT ON only car?? if someone could please explain to me i would greatly appreciate it.
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ok so i have been a member on here since 2006, i originally joined knowing that i was going to inherit a 2002 ws6 and wanted to be able to read threads on here about what mods did what, etc....now i have a stupid question for all of you that shows my car ignorance....What mods classify your ride as a BOLT ON only car?? if someone could please explain to me i would greatly appreciate it.
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Nice kill OP. I find it interesting that alot of guys on this site run LS motors with longtubes and lids with no tune. Does the LS computer compensate for the increased airflow? I know with those mods on my Mach and 3V's it would be running way lean with engine damage a possibility. I gained 17RWHP and almost 40RWTQ with a good dyno tune before my car was SC'd. Hate to leave that on the table.