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Old 08-25-2010, 07:57 PM
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Default full exhaust Ls1 vs full exhaust '08 Mustang GT

This happened last night, 2 guys off our local board, i figured it would be of interest to you guys...

2008 Mustang GT - 5sp, long tube headers, H pipe, axlebacks, intake, tune

1999 Camaro Z28 - 6sp, long tube headers, y pipe, catback, lid

run was from aprox 35mph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYaJ7cHqYcg

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I'm assuming the camaro has a tune?
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nope, just the mods listed
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Suprised the stang stayed so clsoe for so long. what gear is in it? i dont even know what the stock one is in those.
edit: whoops read that wrong.
re-edit: okay you made the mistake not me, thought i was going crazy

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3v put up a good fight for a bit.

Good video/race.

Nice kill
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I've had some good runs with bolt on 3vs. Respectable platforms in my opinion.
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LOL my mind was trapped in the mustang gutter, it has the standard off road y pipe lol.... you can hear it in the video the camaro driver hit the clutch as well as the gas on the hit... not sure why. They only got in this one run because its like pulling teeth to get a run set up. I was honestly expecting more out of the mustang. I would like to see a dig
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If the Camaro had a tune I bet it would be even uglier for the Mustang.
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Nice run! And on the stock tune also. lol
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i ran one as well with my full exhaust ws6 before the cam. i had 410s and he had 373s. both.. 6sp vs 5sp. he had a tune, intake, and UD pulleys(made the difference) as well. no tune for me. and i barely pulled on him. those 3vs wake up with bolt ons and a tune. of course again, if i had a tune i woulda walked ez. but respect to sleeperstangxx on this forum, his car holds its own
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Originally Posted by 02ws666
if i had a tune i woulda walked ez.
.....Because tunes give an easy 20+hp on a bolt-on car, right?
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Originally Posted by WSsick
.....Because tunes give an easy 20+hp on a bolt-on car, right?
No. But It can optimize your power curves. I feel mine needed a tune. But thx for your input mr I have untuned listed as a mod? It obv does something if you feel the need to display the fact that yours runs high twelves untuned.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
.....Because tunes give an easy 20+hp on a bolt-on car, right?
It'll give you an easy 2+car lengths in the 1/4 mile, which is the equivelant of 20+rwhp. Or do you think the smog tune your car has stock is the best thing out there? Maybe torque management is actually meant for ultimate speed and not there to keep ignorant non-gearheads from losing control of cars they never should have bought? Not to mention how it's used to keep week drivetrain links from breaking while under warranty.
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Originally Posted by 02ws666
No. But It can optimize your power curves. I feel mine needed a tune. But thx for your input mr I have untuned listed as a mod? It obv does something if you feel the need to display the fact that yours runs high twelves untuned.
I list my exact setup so people don't have to waste a post on "what are your mods?" I know what a tune does, thanks . Still would not clean up so well that you would run away if you "barely pulled" him with a bolt-on car. An untuned heads/cam, cam only, FI car would obviously respond alot better to a tune.

I see your posts around here alot, most of which are very defensive if someone gives you advice, insight, or has an opinion other than your own. All I'm saying is take a chill pill.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
It'll give you an easy 2+car lengths in the 1/4 mile, which is the equivelant of 20+rwhp. Or do you think the smog tune your car has stock is the best thing out there? Maybe torque management is actually meant for ultimate speed and not there to keep ignorant non-gearheads from losing control of cars they never should have bought? Not to mention how it's used to keep week drivetrain links from breaking while under warranty.
I was speaking of his car, which if I am assuming correctly as being a manual, would not have torque management of any kind. And on a tune giving you 20+ rwhp IN A BOLT-ON CAR. In that case, if I get an LS6 intake (most people say between 10-20hp) and a tune (you say 20+hp) would put me around 370rwhp in a bolt on car? Not happening. As I just posted, I was speaking ONLY of bolt on cars, not setups on which a tune will actually big of a large benefit (20+ definitely possible on heads/cam, cam only, FI cars).
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Originally Posted by WSsick
.....Because tunes give an easy 20+hp on a bolt-on car, right?
Actually i've seen bolt on cars pick up 10-15hp and 1.5 tenths or so with a good dyno tune, so your numbers aren't that far off actually. And I agree with the other guys comment about your sig, kinda makes you look like a hypocrite.
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good runs, perfectly matched cars.

I do like the new 5.0, but glad to see the LS1 is still holding it off.
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
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Actually i've seen bolt on cars pick up 10-15hp and 1.5 tenths or so with a good dyno tune, so your numbers aren't that far off actually. And I agree with the other guys comment about your sig, kinda makes you look like a hypocrite.
As I started before, I put everything I've done so people don't have to ask what is done to my car. My car is already running strong and a tune + LS6 intake according to you guys would make my car one hell of a bolt on monster, or maybe since most bolt on m6's only get ~350ish on a dyno an LS6 intake does nothing at all and I shouldn't waste my time on one.

No, a tune will give me a good 10rwhp (15 tops) peak , with great gains in the midrange. The LS6 intake is where the bigger power gains are on a bolt on car.
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Not gonna quote I'm on a slow *** iPhone. But a tune on a bolt on car with gears WILL make it run better. Period. And I said walked away not run away. And yes I will get defensive when someone says something retarded like a tune won't help. A tune damn sure helps a 3v. Ls1 nit as much but it will help
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Originally Posted by 02ws666
Not gonna quote I'm on a slow *** iPhone. But a tune on a bolt on car with gears WILL make it run better. Period. And I said walked away not run away. And yes I will get defensive when someone says something retarded like a tune won't help. A tune damn sure helps a 3v. Ls1 nit as much but it will help
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