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Old 10-10-2010, 06:03 PM
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Default 1999 Bolt on Z/28 vs 1994 bolt on, nos Z/28

I finally got a chance to run a good friend of mine today. He has a full bolt on, 4.10 gear, and sprayed 94 z/28. Has a 100 shot. I have the car in sig. We ran from a dig. I let him start with his driver window at my front bumper. He got the hit. We ran to 110. I got him by a car maybe. He ran 12.88 at the track over and over. Thought it would be close, but I also thought he would get me by a little. Was a very fun race.
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Is something wrong with his car? Was he spraying?
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Ya, he sprayed. My car does pull very hard for a bolt on ls1.
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Something is very wrong with that LT car. I don't think he was actually spraying.

Edit: What, are you hitting 380 RWHP? Doubt it...
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Yup. Made up the story. I have nothing better to do. lol He even told me he sprayed. Others were there to see the race. A few are even on here. He only ran 12.88. Not hard for a bolt on ls1 to run that or better.
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It's not hard for a bolt-on/tuned/geared LT1 to run a 12.88 w/o spray. Something is wrong with this picture.
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Originally Posted by I8ASaleen
It's not hard for a bolt-on/tuned/geared LT1 to run a 12.88 w/o spray. Something is wrong with this picture.
His car has 150K on it. Mine has 50k. I've never really seen a fast lt1 yet. I know bolt on Ls1's can run high 12's easy.
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i was there, right behind them actually, saw the blue smoke and smelled the nos from the 94 and it looked like fred was ahead by a bit but couldnt exactly tell how much, at least a car for sure though. I raced the same one on the highway the other day and stayed on his back bumper the whole time
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Good runs. I don't doubt you beat him. I know LS1s respond great to bolt ons and I have seen similar bolt on + 100 shot LT1's only making 350-360whp. There's always a lot of factors that play into races, especially when power adders like nitrous are involved. His bottle pressure may have not been perfect...etc. But hey, a win is a win
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His car is fucked up. I have never heard of a bolt-on/sprayed LT1 struggle to get out of 13s.

I ran 12.80s all motor with bolt-ons and 140K on the clock. Stock salad shooters all around, stock 3.23 gears, small 3200 stall. That is about average here, many have gone much quicker.

Good Kill nonetheless, but something is seriously wrong with his car.Don't expect the same outcome from other cars with similar mods or you will be very surprised.
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Yup. My car is a pos. Couldn't ever get my ls1 out of the 15's. The lt1 here is a 9 sec car. I made the story up. Sorry guys. I fail at life. Need a honda to beat anything in my town.
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I can see it, I mean it was from a dig. I'm assuming he's a 6 speed, which means he could have blown the tires off. Also, while there would be a definite power difference, it wouldn't be more than 50 and that can easily be made up with him spinning hard. The OP has a geard auto, should make for a great 60ft-er.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
I can see it, I mean it was from a dig. I'm assuming he's a 6 speed, which means he could have blown the tires off. Also, while there would be a definite power difference, it wouldn't be more than 50 and that can easily be made up with him spinning hard. The OP has a geard auto, should make for a great 60ft-er.
Sorry but stock stalled LS with just intake/gear/exhaust shouldnt be able to **** with a full bolt-on 100 shot LT. Without the shot? Hell yea. He is literally running SLOWER then most NA bolt-on LT1s and he has a 100 shot.

Not calling BS or hating - I'll be the first to say a win is a win, no excuses...but something clearly is up. Like I said:

Originally Posted by Puck
Good Kill nonetheless, but something is seriously wrong with his car.Don't expect the same outcome from other cars with similar mods or you will be very surprised.
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Originally Posted by Puck
His car is fucked up. I have never heard of a bolt-on/sprayed LT1 struggle to get out of 13s.

I ran 12.80s all motor with bolt-ons and 140K on the clock. Stock salad shooters all around, stock 3.23 gears, small 3200 stall. That is about average here, many have gone much quicker.

Good Kill nonetheless, but something is seriously wrong with his car.Don't expect the same outcome from other cars with similar mods or you will be very surprised.
Man I don't know what world you are living in, but LT1's don't do anywhere near that with those mods up in Washington. Takes full boltons just to consistently get out of the 14's. Hell, full boltons, tuned, geared, drag radial wearing LS1 Fbodies are very rare that can get 12.8's or faster. Rare as in I've seen ONE do a 12.6 @ 108. He had a big stall and ET Streets at Pacific Raceways (NHRA track) with a altitude of 200' I believe.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Man I don't know what world you are living in, but LT1's don't do anywhere near that with those mods up in Washington. Takes full boltons just to consistently get out of the 14's. Hell, full boltons, tuned, geared, drag radial wearing LS1 Fbodies are very rare that can get 12.8's or faster. Rare as in I've seen ONE do a 12.6 @ 108. He had a big stall and ET Streets at Pacific Raceways (NHRA track) with a altitude of 200' I believe.
But nobody is talking about Washington. Correct those times for DA/get better drivers.
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Originally Posted by 1gt2nv
Yup. My car is a pos. Couldn't ever get my ls1 out of the 15's. The lt1 here is a 9 sec car. I made the story up. Sorry guys. I fail at life. Need a honda to beat anything in my town.
quit being a jackass, no one said your car was slow...but if he's spraying 100 and full bolt ons (maybe you should get an actual list, maybe he thinks headers and a k&n qualifies) he is slow for what he has

but you still one so congrats
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Originally Posted by Puck
Sorry but stock stalled LS with just intake/gear/exhaust shouldnt be able to **** with a full bolt-on 100 shot LT. Without the shot? Hell yea. He is literally running SLOWER then most NA bolt-on LT1s and he has a 100 shot.

Not calling BS or hating - I'll be the first to say a win is a win, no excuses...but something clearly is up. Like I said:
I just think that if the LT1 driver was an idiot and sprayed out of the hole or dumped the clutch and spun his *** off (seeing as it was from a dig) that the outcome is possible. I won't say it should happen every time though.

For the record, my friend's KT1 ran a 13.5 (dont know trap) when it was owned by the previous owner. 96 WS6, m6, longtubes, true duals, tuned.

Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Man I don't know what world you are living in, but LT1's don't do anywhere near that with those mods up in Washington. Takes full boltons just to consistently get out of the 14's. Hell, full boltons, tuned, geared, drag radial wearing LS1 Fbodies are very rare that can get 12.8's or faster. Rare as in I've seen ONE do a 12.6 @ 108. He had a big stall and ET Streets at Pacific Raceways (NHRA track) with a altitude of 200' I believe.
****, that's really terrible. I ran a 12.83 @ 108 with headers, true duals, lid and 3.73s (no tune, no ls6 intake) and I am on 245 street tires. DA was 1100 btw. I will definitely be at least a 12.6 tomorrow when I go back, assuming I hook.
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it sounds about right. his bottle pressure may have been low. my cousin had an lt1 stalled, gears, exhaust and a 150 shot and was running 13.3's consistently. he had a cracked distributor that would mess up when it came time shift but either way. this story seems right.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Man I don't know what world you are living in, but LT1's don't do anywhere near that with those mods up in Washington. Takes full boltons just to consistently get out of the 14's. Hell, full boltons, tuned, geared, drag radial wearing LS1 Fbodies are very rare that can get 12.8's or faster. Rare as in I've seen ONE do a 12.6 @ 108. He had a big stall and ET Streets at Pacific Raceways (NHRA track) with a altitude of 200' I believe.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not - those times are terrible!!! My car ran 13.9 bone stock on 245 khumo street tires, and 12.8s with bolt-ons(not all of the bolt-ons either, willing to bet I could have coaxed a 12.5 out of it with a few more mods).

Originally Posted by 2000camarospade
it sounds about right. his bottle pressure may have been low. my cousin had an lt1 stalled, gears, exhaust and a 150 shot and was running 13.3's consistently. he had a cracked distributor that would mess up when it came time shift but either way. this story seems right.
Yes, it seems right if he had a cracked opti cap . If i owned a car that ran 13.3 with a 150 shot i would burn it on the spot.

I love how LT1s somehow get slower every year, from mid 12's with bolt-ons in the 90's to struggling to get out of 14's now .

Again, not saying I don't believe the story, I already congratulated him on the win...but there is obviously some other reasoning behind it.
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Good kill!

His car is definitely hurt though if a 100 shot bolt on lt1 is losing to a bolt-on ls1

My car ran low 13's in 3000 DA untuned with Ebay knockoff headers, ebay ory, slp lm2 catback, 3.73's, 3600 stall, DR's on stock suspension



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