Ran up against another '11 5.0
12-29-2010, 12:47 PM
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Fixed. I dont think bolt ons will make up this many car lengths
http://www.streetfire.net/video/2001...-gt_726390.htm
http://www.streetfire.net/video/2001...-gt_726390.htm
12-29-2010, 12:49 PM
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Difference between a 2v and a LS1 fbody is about .4-6 of a second depending on drivers. I've seen people easily pick up a whole second on a 2v with full bolt-ons a tune and DRs.
I would consider that pretty modded for a 2v however.
I would consider that pretty modded for a 2v however.
12-29-2010, 01:09 PM
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How did slow *** 2-valves make it into the conversation? I thought we were talking LS1's and 5.o's???
12-29-2010, 01:55 PM
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12-29-2010, 01:55 PM
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12-29-2010, 01:56 PM
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You're correct. Most 2vs run faster stock for stock. At least in my experience.
But if you wanna compare times, both are about equal. The 2v having the slight advantage on launch. The longer the race goes however, the more the LT1 is going to win because of the displacement.
This has been discussed like the Mach1 vs LS1 debate ad-nauseam in here before.
But if you wanna compare times, both are about equal. The 2v having the slight advantage on launch. The longer the race goes however, the more the LT1 is going to win because of the displacement.
This has been discussed like the Mach1 vs LS1 debate ad-nauseam in here before.
What a moron.
12-29-2010, 02:00 PM
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2v's run 14's End of Story.
12-29-2010, 02:01 PM
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12-29-2010, 02:03 PM
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2v's run 14's End of Story.
It's equivalent to a LS1 getting low 13s.
Hell Redfire, you've seen faster posted on other boards haven't you? I have.
12-29-2010, 02:05 PM
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And don't act like you've never argued this with me before and got made fun of for it by the many regulars in here.
An LT1 is no more of a performer then a 2v GT is stock for stock.
An LT1 is no more of a performer then a 2v GT is stock for stock.
12-29-2010, 02:14 PM
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I would call stock manual 2vs 14.2-14.4 average (at least around these parts in our **** air).
With an excellent driver and car the top percentage might crack into the high 13s. There are a lot more lt1 m6 cars doing it though so I would have a hard time saying 2v are "in between ls1 and lt1" in performance. They are close to the lt1s but I would completely disagree the 2v is, on average, faster stock for stock than an lt1 car.
With an excellent driver and car the top percentage might crack into the high 13s. There are a lot more lt1 m6 cars doing it though so I would have a hard time saying 2v are "in between ls1 and lt1" in performance. They are close to the lt1s but I would completely disagree the 2v is, on average, faster stock for stock than an lt1 car.
12-29-2010, 02:22 PM
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They both run at average the same times. Again the 2v having the launch advantage, and the LT1 having the distance advantage. 3 of my closest friends are Camaro owners. 2 of them are mostly stock to stock LT1 owners. We take trips to "Mexico" and race each other late at night all summer long. The slightly modded one is a auto, but it has mid-pipe and exhaust. The stock one is a M6. Most of the time I usually end up winning when racing from a dig. If racing from a high speed roll the auto usually inch out about a 1/2 to a car on me. after hitting 105. Neither car goes over 100 in the 1/4 stock. Close, but no cigar.
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12-29-2010, 02:33 PM
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12-29-2010, 02:38 PM
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You wont be seeing gains from head porting, thats for sure. Just by upping the powerband via bigger cams and intake manifolds. Hell the Bullitt Mustang 5.0 already revs to 7200rpms? 7500rpms? something like that.
Manny I'll be in Cali again at the end of January. We are now working most of the Boeing flight test planes out of San Bernadino: I can borrow another 5.0 GT if you wanna see how you do against it. ??? Let me know.
Manny I'll be in Cali again at the end of January. We are now working most of the Boeing flight test planes out of San Bernadino: I can borrow another 5.0 GT if you wanna see how you do against it. ??? Let me know.
You're correct. Most 2vs run faster stock for stock. At least in my experience.
But if you wanna compare times, both are about equal. The 2v having the slight advantage on launch. The longer the race goes however, the more the LT1 is going to win because of the displacement.
This has been discussed like the Mach1 vs LS1 debate ad-nauseam in here before.
But if you wanna compare times, both are about equal. The 2v having the slight advantage on launch. The longer the race goes however, the more the LT1 is going to win because of the displacement.
This has been discussed like the Mach1 vs LS1 debate ad-nauseam in here before.
Yet another thing you're wrong about.
With ALL things being equal it would be up to whoever drove better.
Uh so do most LT1s Einstein. But like the 2vs, most anyone that knows what they are doing in them can get them into the 13s stock.
It's equivalent to a LS1 getting low 13s.
Hell Redfire, you've seen faster posted on other boards haven't you? I have.
With ALL things being equal it would be up to whoever drove better.
Uh so do most LT1s Einstein. But like the 2vs, most anyone that knows what they are doing in them can get them into the 13s stock.
It's equivalent to a LS1 getting low 13s.
Hell Redfire, you've seen faster posted on other boards haven't you? I have.
They both run at average the same times. Again the 2v having the launch advantage, and the LT1 having the distance advantage. 3 of my closest friends are Camaro owners. 2 of them are mostly stock to stock LT1 owners. We take trips to "Mexico" and race each other late at night all summer long. The slightly modded one is a auto, but it has mid-pipe and exhaust. The stock one is a M6. Most of the time I usually end up winning when racing from a dig. If racing from a high speed roll the auto usually inch out about a 1/2 to a car on me. after hitting 105. Neither car goes over 100 in the 1/4 stock. Close, but no cigar.
12-29-2010, 02:40 PM
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2 valve vs lt1 is an extremely close race. owners of either cars can make valid arguments as to which is faster. I used to own an LT1 fbody and only raced one 2valve GT and i won but it was an extremely close race. Mine was an auto though, not sure what the GT was. The dude i beat swore up and down on the mustang boards that i was the first LT1 to beat him. On that run i pulled a 13.9@101 with intake and cutout & 2.73's .i dont know what his mods were if any.