MauriSSio

243 heads with sodium valves are not LS1 heads either. And they certainly shouldnt be considered LS1 heads if they came on an LS6 longblock

ss1129

iTrader: (16)

Anything is possible....but there is no evidence that an ls6 block increases hp over an ls1 block.

Pretty much every year there were changes to the ls1..from 97 all the way to 2002. No two years are really the same...only the power.

LT/LS Guy

That car you listed above IS NOT a full weight car. If you wan't to talk about weight reduction/suspension bolt-on cars, the LS1 has already been der done dat!

Naturally Aspirated - Bolt-on's - Stock Motor* :..

F-Body
Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car
RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400
Project_SS ----- 10.866 @ 122.14 (1.45), 98 Camaro SS A4
Magnus --------- 10.987 @ 119.31 (1.42), 97 Firebird A4
Promod1955 ----- 11.030 @ 124.18 (1.45), 00 Camaro SS A4
Skelton -------- 11.088 @ 119.10 (1.44), 01 Formula A3
1BAD98LS1 ------ 11.089 @ 120.62 (1.47), 98 Formula A4
Hawkn01 -------- 11.256 @ 118.48 (1.52), 01 Firehawk A4
SilentbutViolent 11.302 @ 117.84 (1.52), 98 Camaro Z28 A4
V6 Bird -------- 11.322 @ 118.67 (1.53), 01 Formula A4
Matt D --------- 11.421 @ 116.24 (1.47), 99 Camaro Z28 A4
ATwelveSec02Z28 11.424 @ 119.26 (1.53), 02 Camaro Z28 M6
BAIN ----------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4
Lane ----------- 11.458 @ 117.33 (1.53), 01 Camaro Z28 A4
11SECSS -------- 11.458 @ 116.94 (1.50), 01 Camaro SS A4
DMcRacer ------- 11.468 @ 116.88 (1.56), 02 Camaro SS A4
MDBlackZ28 ----- 11.494 @ 115.85 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4
Black Sunshine - 11.496 @ 116.24 (1.52), 01 Camaro SS A4
NSSANE02 ------- 11.514 @ 119.50 (1.64), 02 Camaro SS M6
Birdman -------- 11.519 @ 115.60 (1.55), 98 TransAmWS6 A4
WILWAXU -------- 11.544 @ 115.36 (1.53), 01 Formula A4
01-Z ----------- 11.549 @ 117.82 (1.60), 01 Camaro Z28 M6
Lynda ---------- 11.550 @ 115.36 (1.51), 01 Camaro Z28 A4
chrs1313 ------- 11.558 @ 116.24 (1.54), 02 Camaro Z28 A4
Raughammer ----- 11.562 @ 115.25 (1.50), 98 Camaro Z28 A4
2002Z ---------- 11.564 @ 115.75 (1.52), 02 Camaro Z28 A4
Colonel -------- 11.565 @ 115.54 (1.51), 00 Camaro Z28 A4
RAGEman -------- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6
Dangerous SS --- 11.576 @ 116.52 (1.55), 02 Camaro SS A4
Shon Herron ---- 11.592 @ 113.00 (1.50), 97 Z28 LS1swap A4
MikeHoffpauir -- 11.593 @ 116.00 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4
JFM ------------ 11.623 @ 115.44 (1.57), 99 Camaro SS A4
DOUBT IT ------- 11.623 @ 114.94 (1.57), 00 Camaro Z28 A4
mmiller -------- 11.664 @ 114.55 (1.53), 01 Camaro SS A4
JS12 ----------- 11.672 @ 119.23 (1.72), 02 Camaro Z28 M6
LARRY01Z28 ----- 11.674 @ 118.20 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6
JASON ---------- 11.682 @ 116.37 (1.62), 98 Camaro Z28 A4
FASTR A4 ------- 11.694 @ 114.57 (1.56), 00 Formula A4
Magnet --------- 11.699 @ 115.38 (1.59), 02 Camaro SS A4
LS1INSIDE ------ 11.700 @ 114.93 (1.55), 99 Camaro Z28 A4
AliWantsNss ---- 11.702 @ 116.58 (1.56), 02 Camaro Z28 M6
MikeG ---------- 11.702 @ 115.66 (1.63), 01 Camaro SS A4
Kent1 ---------- 11.704 @ 115.38 (1.51), 99 Camaro SS A4
1999TransamWs6 - 11.715 @ 115.93 (1.73), 99 Trans am A3
JonCR96Z ------- 11.715 @ 113.39 (1.56), 01 Trans-Am A4
XtremeLS1Z28 --- 11.719 @ 115.07 (1.64), 00 Camaro Z28 A4
2Quick4U ------- 11.721 @ 115.19 (1.58), 00 Trans-Am A4
MADCOW --------- 11.730 @ 115.80 (1.57), 98 Camaro Z28 A4
black02-z28 ---- 11.731 @ 113.81 (1.50), 02 Camaro Z28 A4
z28kid98 ------- 11.740 @ 113.55 (1.56), 98 Camaro Z28 A4
Durien --------- 11.747 @ 117.59 (1.60), 99 Camaro SS M6

LT/LS Guy

^^Not too shabby for an old SBC i'd say.

Demon 383

Correct and the 10-second BOLT-ON 5.0 car from Evolution Performance had a decent amount of weight reduction done to as well.

MauriSSio

so youre saying that after only 6 months of existence, that 5.0 is already 10th on your all time cam only list with the handicap of only having BOLT ONS!?!?! thats impressive considering the ls1 has had a 13year head start!

Demon 383

Heck if those car really do drop a full 2-seconds with just BOLT-ONS and nothing else i'm trading in my vette tomorrow.

Demon 383

That's not the CAM-ONLY list do-do head. That's BOLT-ONS.

The cam-only record is in the 9's now.

ss1129

iTrader: (16)

When you throw a better motor/trans/gear into a platform that has been out for 6 years thats what happens. I love how people act like the new mustang fell out of the sky.


EDIT: I missed the part where he thought it was cam only. LMAO

MauriSSio

edit: that was bolt on list my mistake

why is weight never listed and never spoken of on all the lists (even on other boards and other makes)??

LT/LS Guy

Those cars had weight reduction of course, some a great amount, just like the Evolution Performance bolt-on 5.0 that wen't 10s. All is fair.

ss1129

iTrader: (16)

The secret is what people cant see.

MauriSSio

i see, just wondering what the final weights were. But im sure the evo performance car in the 10's is certainly not the fastest we will see. The 5.0 has only been around a few short months.

Arc00TA

iTrader: (17)

Yeah, I see what you mean. I was saying on average you won't see a difference, but its possible if you put them both on an engine dyno back to back you might see a few peak hp. The variation between engines of the same kind is probably bigger than the difference you might see there. Sorry to sound contradictory, I'm at work and was typing it in a hurry.

LT/LS Guy

I'm sure it isn't. That's a bad *** motor. I can't wait to see how they compare with more extensive mods (i.e. Heads, Cams, Intake Manifolds)

MauriSSio

thats stupid. so if you can hide a nitrous system then you really feel its fair game just because its not visible? what is it with people that drive hacked up cars that dont want others to know? is it shame?

Demon 383

That's the fun part of drag racing. You don't have to tell the next man what all you got. Guys have been doing that since the beginning. Ever heard of a 'Sneaky Pete'?

MauriSSio

i know its been around since the beginning. i just think the more someone has to hide, the more dishonorable or untrusting. I just like racing for fun and to keep it competitive. I remember when i was younger in my LT1, some dumbass in a 5.0 wanted to race me. I told him it might be a good race cuz he said he had boltons. we went out lined up and turned out he had a 200shot of nitrous and ran by me like nothing. Really? why even line up cars KNOWING that it aint even gonna be a good race??? so we will have to disagree on this subject, its a gray area of right and wrong IMO. i dont like that evo performance acts like they list all their mods, but removing things is also a mod.

Demon 383

Yeah I remember the stang guys being the most good for that. Especially the fox-body guys. They would almost always hide their mods. I didn't mind though, it made the game more fun for me. Just gotta be sure you bring enuff.

ss1129

iTrader: (16)

When you race in events for prize money and there are power or weight limits you dont want people to know how you got your car down that light ect ect. Its like helping out the competition. Plus if you set up a street race for $$ and you only have bolt ons, but -300 from crafty weight removal it really helps you out.