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Old 01-19-2011, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Hey marc, I'll bet you $20,000 that a Sean wins.
I'd be willing to bet Sean wins also. Anybody bet against that? If so I'm all in unless if one of you legally get a name change
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I'd be willing to bet Sean wins also. Anybody bet against that? If so I'm all in unless if one of you legally get a name change
Fine, Sean with the V8 American RWD car with the manual transmission will win the race. Wanna take that bet?
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Hey marc, I'll bet you $20,000 that a Sean wins.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:41 PM
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Fine, Sean with the V8 American RWD car with the manual transmission will win the race. Wanna take that bet?
You are the Sean with American RWD M6. You just want $20k to buy a C6
Old 01-19-2011, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
You are the Sean with American RWD M6. You just want $20k to buy a C6
Old 01-20-2011, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
From a roll on the street or if both cars have equal traction tires and equal drivers? The stock LS1 is gonna walk away from the bolton 2v unless that 2v has serious weight reduction. Period.
From a roll to the upper 100+ mph I would assume the LS1 would eventually beat it. But most races are not ran at 130+ especially when stock, or bolt-ons.

In a 1/4 race however, the 2v bolt on will take the LS1. There are more bolt-on 2vs in the 12s than there are stock LS1s in the 12s. A lot more.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
From a roll to the upper 100+ mph I would assume the LS1 would eventually beat it. But most races are not ran at 130+ especially when stock, or bolt-ons.

In a 1/4 race however, the 2v bolt on will take the LS1. There are more bolt-on 2vs in the 12s than there are stock LS1s in the 12s. A lot more.
Still proving your case eh?
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I really shouldn't have to really. And I'm certainly not in the minority when saying as much.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
From a roll to the upper 100+ mph I would assume the LS1 would eventually beat it. But most races are not ran at 130+ especially when stock, or bolt-ons.

In a 1/4 race however, the 2v bolt on will take the LS1. There are more bolt-on 2vs in the 12s than there are stock LS1s in the 12s. A lot more.
Blowers and bottles don't count as bolt-ons, buddy. But bottles are for babies and we all know that the mustang is the baby of american muscle cars.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Try telling these clowns that ;-)

Like I said, a Full Bolt on 2v will spank a most LS1s out there. There is that occasional freak high 12 stock run, but bolt ons going 12.7 could still take those.
What? Bolt on 2V going 12.7? Damn, I have never seen one personally and probably never will. I raced a bolt on 2V multiple times in my stock shelby GT and absolutely handed him his *** every time. And I went 13.5 in the shelby. 2V's are not impressive stock, and they are not impressive bolt on either in this day and age.

Originally Posted by Ke^in
From a roll to the upper 100+ mph I would assume the LS1 would eventually beat it. But most races are not ran at 130+ especially when stock, or bolt-ons.

In a 1/4 race however, the 2v bolt on will take the LS1. There are more bolt-on 2vs in the 12s than there are stock LS1s in the 12s. A lot more.
How can you say that like it will be the outcome every time? Theres a local kid I know that goes 12.7 with a lid and DR LS1 TA M6. Full weight, stock gears, stock everything else. It's my word vs yours on the internet, and I personally have never seen a bolt on 2V even hit close to a 13.0 at the strip....we can find vids all day but obviously the "good" runs are going to be the ones on youtube. Hell the same guy that runs a 12.7 once in a vid may run consistent 13.1's but just HAPPENED to get lucky and catch his 12.7 on camera. Theres too many factors to come out and make an assumption like "bolt on 2V will ALWAYS beat stock LS1" because thats a load of crap to me.
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Originally Posted by Mystic Z-28
Blowers and bottles don't count as bolt-ons
No one said they did sugar-****.
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
What? Bolt on 2V going 12.7? Damn, I have never seen one personally and probably never will. I raced a bolt on 2V multiple times in my stock shelby GT and absolutely handed him his *** every time. And I went 13.5 in the shelby. 2V's are not impressive stock, and they are not impressive bolt on either in this day and age.
One only has to do a search to fine many 12s bolt-on 2v. That isn't impressive I agree. But it's still fast enough to beat a stock LS1. And if someone can only get 13.5s with a full bolt-on GT I'd say he needs a driver mod.
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How can you say that like it will be the outcome every time?
I am not sure it would be the outcome every time.
and I personally have never seen a bolt on 2V even hit close to a 13.0 at the strip....we can find vids all day but obviously the "good" runs are going to be the ones on youtube.
I have and I only go to the track 4-5 times a year.
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Hell the same guy that runs a 12.7 once in a vid may run consistent 13.1's but just HAPPENED to get lucky and catch his 12.7 on camera.
That isn't the case.
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Theres too many factors to come out and make an assumption like "bolt on 2V will ALWAYS beat stock LS1" because thats a load of crap to me.
Always? No. Most of the time? Yes.

Again, I am not the only person saying it. And all of them aren't Mustang owners.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
One only has to do a search to fine many 12s bolt-on 2v. That isn't impressive I agree. But it's still fast enough to beat a stock LS1. And if someone can only get 13.5s with a full bolt-on GT I'd say he needs a driver mod.
Driver mod, no. Tires, yes. It was hard to even get that time out of the stock rock hard 235 BFG's. I know that car had a very low 13 in it but I didn't get it and unfortunately never will since it's gone now. Hell my bro, just by switching to a 255 nitto 555 (not the drag radial) got a 1.9 60ft. I could never get below a 2.07 or so.

And I'm just saying, this argument could go on for 30 pages arguing which is faster but both cars have been "known" to run around the 12.7 area and it is not totally uncommon for the LS1. I personally have seen an LS1 do it, but not a 2V. Can 2V's do it? Sure they probably can, but being more common than an LS1 doing it (hell even common in general)? I definately wouldn't agree with that based on my experience going to the track and what I have seen myself.

A search on youtube revealed this.....taken from all the top bolt on mustang GT vids, heres the times I got. 13.13, 13.5, 13.97, 14.0, 14.1, 14.58, and then there was the one 12.7 vid that you posted. Those are all bolt on/tuned GT's, not all having the same mods, but it's just a ballpark. The mph on the vids that showed it was never higher than 101 either. 99% of the time that is not enough "umph" to hit 12's, so a bolt on GT doing it is def not common at all based on the average youtube poster.

Just for kicks I looked up stock LS1 times as well. Got a 12.69, 12.7, 12.9, & 13.5, all around 104-107 mph, and all had only tires. Everything else stock.
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Heck just doing a simple google search I found another. I am sure I can find more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpJxIa0rU4
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Fine, Sean with the V8 American RWD car with the manual transmission will win the race. Wanna take that bet?
Sean is getting an *** beating! Baaaaad! I heard Sean puts gorilla glue on his tires before racing in the snow, that's his secret. $500 on Sean, any takers?
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Originally Posted by Mystic Z-28
Blowers and bottles don't count as bolt-ons, buddy. But bottles are for babies and we all know that the mustang is the baby of american muscle cars.
Are you implying nitrous is for babies?

You are just proving your point how retarded you are with each post. You are too stupid to insult.



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