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Old 01-30-2011, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Woah the Admin came to the rescue of one of his Vendors? What a surprise!'
They don't need me or anyone to "come to their rescue". All they do is win races, set records, and win championships...all on an international level.
What do you do and who are you to question them? Just curious.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
If you actually took the time to consider what I said rather than worry about my statements potentially impacting any sales your vendor might get from a moron like me flagging one of their timeslips you might actually agree with me.
The last thing I'm worried about is Livernois' sales. They're doing just fine without me. Trust me on that one. As I stated above, I find it funny that
you, who has zero credibility in the drag racing world, questions them and their credibility, when they have been pushing the envelope and have been
putting people on the trailer for years.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
The bottom line is no SHO that traps 85mph in the 1/8th is going to trap 110.xx, period. It's been done 100 times and the highest traps for similarly modded cars are in the 108's and they're doing 86-87 in the 1/8th. There's no coincidence that the same car in question couldn't ever replicate that fluke trap speed.
Well, it sounds like you've got it all figured out. You should open your own shop and start your own race team considering your vast knowledge of racing
and tuning.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
If you wanna construe that as me taking a shot at Livernois' credibility then you're clearly looking past my entire statement.
You called them out. Don't put that on me.

Here's an idea...why don't you actually try to contribute something to 'Tech instead of calling out a world class speed shop who's done more for the LSx community than you can fathom.
Old 01-30-2011, 08:03 PM
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You've completely overlooked what was actually called out and turned this into me calling out Livernois.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Why is it that no one can ever just admit the timing system at the track was probably wrong?
You make a bunch of awesome totally irrelevant points though.

No SHO with those mods is going 85-110 on the back half... period. The ones trapping 107-108 are going 86-87 in the 1/8th. Just because a shop has a slip that says it did doesn't make that slip any less accurate. Oh AND that same car couldn't ever replicate the time. So try and make some points that actually target the argument that I'm making, and stop turning this into something it's not.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
You've completely overlooked what was actually called out and turned this into me calling out Livernois.



You make a bunch of awesome totally irrelevant points though.

No SHO with those mods is going 85-110 on the back half... period. The ones trapping 107-108 are going 86-87 in the 1/8th. Just because a shop has a slip that says it did doesn't make that slip any less accurate. Oh AND that same car couldn't ever replicate the time. So try and make some points that actually target the argument that I'm making, and stop turning this into something it's not.
the fact that you're comparing NA cars to a turbo (not to mention the difference in one on a huge shot or multiple stages etc.) ones shows your limited knowledge of 1/4mi drag racing. I believe 99% of those viewing this thread are thinking the same thing. friendly advice cut your lossess and move on.
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I'm comparing SHO's to SHO's. Tell me why 99.999% of the SHO's trapping 86-87mph 1/8th are going 106-107 in the 1/4. The ones going 84-85 1/8 are going 105-106 1/4. But ONE car on ONE run went 85-110 and couldn't ever do it again.

Was it just a fluke, or was it because Livernois is a reputable shop and I'm a moron?

Slips for evidence...

86-108


84-106
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Taurus...lip-20033.html

But that one car does 85-110 and it's not a fluke.

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Old 02-02-2011, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
I'm comparing SHO's to SHO's. Tell me why 99.999% of the SHO's trapping 86-87mph 1/8th are going 106-107 in the 1/4. The ones going 84-85 1/8 are going 105-106 1/4. But ONE car on ONE run went 85-110 and couldn't ever do it again.

Was it just a fluke, or was it because Livernois is a reputable shop and I'm a moron?

Slips for evidence...

86-108


84-106
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Taurus...lip-20033.html

But that one car does 85-110 and it's not a fluke.
The cars cut different '60s. And they had different tunes. Stop trying to pick fights with everyone all the time. Just because your boat can't do something doesn't mean that it hasn't happened before.
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Originally Posted by 92builtbird
The cars cut different '60s. And they had different tunes. Stop trying to pick fights with everyone all the time. Just because your boat can't do something doesn't mean that it hasn't happened before.
Dont you be calling someones car a boat until you have a time to show.
Old 02-02-2011, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by unit213
They don't need me or anyone to "come to their rescue". All they do is win races, set records, and win championships...all on an international level.
What do you do and who are you to question them? Just curious.



The last thing I'm worried about is Livernois' sales. They're doing just fine without me. Trust me on that one. As I stated above, I find it funny that
you, who has zero credibility in the drag racing world, questions them and their credibility, when they have been pushing the envelope and have been
putting people on the trailer for years.



Well, it sounds like you've got it all figured out. You should open your own shop and start your own race team considering your vast knowledge of racing
and tuning.



You called them out. Don't put that on me.

Here's an idea...why don't you actually try to contribute something to 'Tech instead of calling out a world class speed shop who's done more for the LSx community than you can fathom.
you better watch out Ju1ce might challenge you and all of Livernoise to a race from a roll.....

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
I'm comparing SHO's to SHO's. Tell me why 99.999% of the SHO's trapping 86-87mph 1/8th are going 106-107 in the 1/4. The ones going 84-85 1/8 are going 105-106 1/4. But ONE car on ONE run went 85-110 and couldn't ever do it again.

Was it just a fluke, or was it because Livernois is a reputable shop and I'm a moron?

Slips for evidence...

86-108


84-106
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Taurus...lip-20033.html

But that one car does 85-110 and it's not a fluke.
wow man, let it go. you believe your own 110-111mph "stock" traps even though GTOs average about 108mph
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BODUKE
Dont you be calling someones car a boat until you have a time to show.
Since when does calling a car a boat have to do with a meaningless number in my sig?
You just got here man
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When it was stock, my car consistently trapped 84 in the 1/8 and 108 in the 1/4 at Pomona when they were still running the street legal drags. I'm confident that the timing equipment at that track was working correctly considering the number of NHRA and other large events run there. The back 1/8 gains seem right in line to me.
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Originally Posted by ccxxxxxxx
how come it doesnt repeat the 110mph
This customer set the Gen IV record today and backed it up on multiple passes.

The best pass was 12.38 @ 110 mph

He also ran 12.39 and a slew of 12.40's





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Not bad at all, any weight reduction?
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If ju1ce races his arms will come out and hold the other car back if he is going to lose. So he never loses a race from a roll.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Not bad at all, any weight reduction?
Thanks!

No weight reduction, full weight.

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Do you think stock weight, stock turbo, non nitrous SHOs will ever trap 113-114mph? I'm thinking the turbos may be too small and the weight too high?
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Do you think stock weight, stock turbo, non nitrous SHOs will ever trap 113-114mph? I'm thinking the turbos may be too small and the weight too high?
I'm not sure. The turbos are very small, so that is definitely going to hold it back. We may try slightly more boost on this car now that it has meth and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by Evil 'Bird
oh yea the new Ford Taurus SomeHomo Owns is a great car
I still say this guy said it right....



















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Bump with video... several Livernois EcoBoost videos, including 12.25 ET SHO

video

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friend's just went 12.65 @Etown with just a tune and exhaust. pretty sweet.


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