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03-02-2011, 01:22 AM
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By the way, Manalishi is a good guy, his sig is just to stir the pot, he owns a Ford. He's one of the few on here with a sense of humor...
03-02-2011, 01:26 AM
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Lol, I know right? Just like how "uncomfortable fbody seats were.....", I mean really??? The T/A seats rock imo. Also, I do not like the look of most Mustangs at all, at least compared to their fbody counterparts so I don't get the appearance argument at all.
I like the coyote and all, but I just don't understand the whole "Mustang sold more than Firebird/Camaro combined" statement!? I mean, who cares about how many cars women and children bought (even if they were all V8s, which of course they were not) back in those days? Sales has never been an indication of performance bang-for-buck but rather simply an interesting dynamic having to do with marketing and buyer ignorance. This is not to say that people only bought Mustangs because they were chicks, or children, or ignorant but rather that sometimes those factors play more of a role in sales' numbers than which vehicle performs best or is the best value. Has anyone compared driving an 01 GT at 130 mph to an 01 fbody at said speed? It's not even a contest at which one gets there first and which one feels best and most stable. If sales were all that mattered, performance enthusiasts would all be driving subcompacts. If it sold more, it MUST be better, no? Just saying
It gets old guys. Oh, and **** Ford....
I like the coyote and all, but I just don't understand the whole "Mustang sold more than Firebird/Camaro combined" statement!? I mean, who cares about how many cars women and children bought (even if they were all V8s, which of course they were not) back in those days? Sales has never been an indication of performance bang-for-buck but rather simply an interesting dynamic having to do with marketing and buyer ignorance. This is not to say that people only bought Mustangs because they were chicks, or children, or ignorant but rather that sometimes those factors play more of a role in sales' numbers than which vehicle performs best or is the best value. Has anyone compared driving an 01 GT at 130 mph to an 01 fbody at said speed? It's not even a contest at which one gets there first and which one feels best and most stable. If sales were all that mattered, performance enthusiasts would all be driving subcompacts. If it sold more, it MUST be better, no? Just saying
It gets old guys. Oh, and **** Ford....
03-02-2011, 09:59 AM
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The ZR1 is about .35-.4 and 5mph faster in the 1/4. I wouldn't call that "very close". From rolling speeds ZR1 by a football field.
03-02-2011, 11:16 AM
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average GT with boltons is trapping 118mph. average F-Body with boltons traps 110-111mph. Which is a better run?
stock C6 Corvette (115-117mph traps) vs Mustang GT w boltons (118mph)?
if a 118mph Mustang cant give a good run with a stock C6 116mph corvette, then what do you call the fbody vs bolton GT? pathetic??
stock C6 Corvette (115-117mph traps) vs Mustang GT w boltons (118mph)?
if a 118mph Mustang cant give a good run with a stock C6 116mph corvette, then what do you call the fbody vs bolton GT? pathetic??
Hence the reason Vettes are a top end roll machine.
But who does roll races nowadays anyway???
03-02-2011, 12:37 PM
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Real World? You mean like the TV show? 
When have you ever (with your own two eyes) seen a ZR1 and Z06 do back to back to back to back 1/4 mile runs? Just trying to grasp what you mean by "real world". 
On the flipside, I have! I'm sure big bro (Ron95ZR1) will be glad to chime in here. ZR1's will go 10's with a solid driver. Z06's are solid mid-low 11's in the same conditions. Not suprising the ZR1 is faster when you consider the 80-90rwhp difference. Duh!
When have you ever (with your own two eyes) seen a ZR1 and Z06 do back to back to back to back 1/4 mile runs? Just trying to grasp what you mean by "real world". On the flipside, I have! I'm sure big bro (Ron95ZR1) will be glad to chime in here. ZR1's will go 10's with a solid driver. Z06's are solid mid-low 11's in the same conditions. Not suprising the ZR1 is faster when you consider the 80-90rwhp difference. Duh!
03-02-2011, 12:42 PM
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Real World? You mean like the TV show? When have you ever (with your own two eyes) seen a ZR1 and Z06 do back to back to back to back 1/4 mile runs? Just trying to grasp what you mean by "real world".
On the flipside, I have! I'm sure big bro (Ron95ZR1) will be glad to chime in here. ZR1's will go 10's with a solid driver. Z06's are solid mid-low 11's in the same conditions. Not suprising the ZR1 is faster when you consider the 80-90rwhp difference. Duh!
When have you ever (with your own two eyes) seen a ZR1 and Z06 do back to back to back to back 1/4 mile runs? Just trying to grasp what you mean by "real world". On the flipside, I have! I'm sure big bro (Ron95ZR1) will be glad to chime in here. ZR1's will go 10's with a solid driver. Z06's are solid mid-low 11's in the same conditions. Not suprising the ZR1 is faster when you consider the 80-90rwhp difference. Duh!
03-02-2011, 12:49 PM
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Real World? You mean like the TV show? When have you ever (with your own two eyes) seen a ZR1 and Z06 do back to back to back to back 1/4 mile runs? Just trying to grasp what you mean by "real world".
On the flipside, I have! I'm sure big bro (Ron95ZR1) will be glad to chime in here. ZR1's will go 10's with a solid driver. Z06's are solid mid-low 11's in the same conditions. Not suprising the ZR1 is faster when you consider the 80-90rwhp difference. Duh!
When have you ever (with your own two eyes) seen a ZR1 and Z06 do back to back to back to back 1/4 mile runs? Just trying to grasp what you mean by "real world". On the flipside, I have! I'm sure big bro (Ron95ZR1) will be glad to chime in here. ZR1's will go 10's with a solid driver. Z06's are solid mid-low 11's in the same conditions. Not suprising the ZR1 is faster when you consider the 80-90rwhp difference. Duh!
03-02-2011, 01:07 PM
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Pay close attention. (close being the keyword).
He's was talking stock vs stock.
FWIW,
Fastest Bone-stock C6 Z06 run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct_Rx...eature=related
Fastest Bone-stock ZR1 run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woOqq...eature=related
It's safe to say the ZR1 is faster by a nice margin.
He's was talking stock vs stock.
FWIW,
Fastest Bone-stock C6 Z06 run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct_Rx...eature=related
Fastest Bone-stock ZR1 run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woOqq...eature=related
It's safe to say the ZR1 is faster by a nice margin.
03-02-2011, 01:09 PM
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On the street and your average driver at the track.
For some reason people dont understand what average means around here. And .3 is an EXTREMELY close race on the street, at the track a bit diffrrence but a .05 better sixty for one and .05 worse for the other and you have a dead nuts race.
Yes, they are very very close.
For some reason people dont understand what average means around here. And .3 is an EXTREMELY close race on the street, at the track a bit diffrrence but a .05 better sixty for one and .05 worse for the other and you have a dead nuts race.
Yes, they are very very close.
03-02-2011, 01:35 PM
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On the street and your average driver at the track.
For some reason people dont understand what average means around here. And .3 is an EXTREMELY close race on the street, at the track a bit diffrrence but a .05 better sixty for one and .05 worse for the other and you have a dead nuts race.
Yes, they are very very close.
For some reason people dont understand what average means around here. And .3 is an EXTREMELY close race on the street, at the track a bit diffrrence but a .05 better sixty for one and .05 worse for the other and you have a dead nuts race.
Yes, they are very very close.
03-02-2011, 01:38 PM
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I don't get this statement.
This is a statement that I have seen several people on here make and is meant as a insult; but in reality GM quit making F-Body's...why? Because they couldn't compete with Ford.
I understand that you are only looking at the performance side of it; but the last time I looked at my 2003 Cobra...it still had "Mustang" stamped all over it.
03-02-2011, 01:44 PM
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It was sarcasm heater.
Read last page or two.
Fbody production ceased because of v6 mustang sells and base gts to mainly women. I care nothing about it but I am aware of the more detailed reasons.
The cobra had nothing to do with the fbody dying.. that was decided before the cobra came to be.
Read last page or two.
Fbody production ceased because of v6 mustang sells and base gts to mainly women. I care nothing about it but I am aware of the more detailed reasons.
The cobra had nothing to do with the fbody dying.. that was decided before the cobra came to be.
03-02-2011, 01:49 PM
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It was sarcasm heater.
Read last page or two.
Fbody production ceased because of v6 mustang sells and base gts to mainly women. I care nothing about it but I am aware of the more detailed reasons.
The cobra had nothing to do with the fbody dying.. that was decided before the cobra came to be.
Read last page or two.
Fbody production ceased because of v6 mustang sells and base gts to mainly women. I care nothing about it but I am aware of the more detailed reasons.
The cobra had nothing to do with the fbody dying.. that was decided before the cobra came to be.
My fault, my sarcasm meter didn't pick it up
I knew it would be a little difficult to pick up! Haha 