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Old 04-06-2011, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckwheat
I think I remember reading this too. I believe one of the rags did state that the boss was faster around their test track than the grand sport vette. It was a current issue that tested and compared all four mustangs. They also said the boss cylinder heads were cnc ported and each one spent I think 40 minutes on the machine. So basically, the boss is a heads, cams, intake, geared, tuned GT from the factory. GM...you paying attention?

OP, good vids. Thanks for sharing.
Pretty Sure it was Killemall who posted this, with an orange boss 302 in the video?
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Originally Posted by 2v-in-12's
The boss is also 41000. For 48000, I would ante up the 7 grand more for the gt500. And yes, you can get a gt500 from a ford web site for 48,000 new.
Ford's site shows MSRP for the BOSS at $40,145 and the GT500 at $48,645. That's $8,500.

For another 2k you could be pushing close to 600 rwhp out of the gt500. I guess the vette is not going to be the only "rich kid's" car anymore
Or just put a $6000 procharger on a $32000 camaro and it will beat the Boss. There are many scenarios. I drove the GT, the Boss and the GT500, I'm a mustang guy and still bought the vette. Fords are just so damn easy and cheap to mod
Gm is paying attention, its called the ZL1
For another 6k or less, a S/C could be added to the BOSS and that should include everything needed. It would easily eclipse the 600hp mark. The Shelby GT350 can be over 600 with the 5L engine and that one starts with less power than the BOSS before S/C. Adding a S/C to a 32k Camaro may allow it to outrun the BOSS in a straight line, but you'll need several thousand more to make it better on a race track with multiple turns.
Old 04-06-2011, 11:17 PM
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True, but try to find a boss with no "premium" markup on it. If you get one for 41000, you will be the first. To be realistic, your car is as fast as your wallet is thick. More performance means more money. Anything can be made fast.
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Originally Posted by 2v-in-12's
True, but try to find a boss with no "premium" markup on it. If you get one for 41000, you will be the first. To be realistic, your car is as fast as your wallet is thick. More performance means more money. Anything can be made fast.
Someone will be(or has been) the 1st, so it really doesn't matter for our conversation. You were quoting sticker prices...
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2v-in-12's, Im a bit fortunate working at a dealer that i get to drive the vettes. Its absolutly amazing how brutal it accelerates but the suspension and chassy can handle the power and keep the car straight. Ive heard with just a tune and intake they run 118mph easily. Hopefully one day i can afford to buy one but regardless 116mph is amazing running on run flats.
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Originally Posted by 2v-in-12's
True, but try to find a boss with no "premium" markup on it. If you get one for 41000, you will be the first. To be realistic, your car is as fast as your wallet is thick. More performance means more money. Anything can be made fast.
Agreed. Dealer markups on them will be terrible

Also 2v-in-12's, I like your sig regarding the recent housework hindering your car's performance even though it already runs awesome slips for a bone stock 09 C6 LS3 A6 that will benefit hugely from a dyno and transmission tune

Makes me wish I was putting my money into an LS3 C6 instead of a turbo 97 TA. Grr, just have to be so damn attached to it
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was that done with the 2.73 gears or 2.56's in the A6?
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
was that done with the 2.73 gears or 2.56's in the A6?
What the heck comes with those sad options?
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2.56 Still pulls like a bitch. Would love to get some 3.42's and a good tune with some dr's
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my uncle had those in his 07 a6 and swapped them out for 3.42s it pulls a lot better up top. the tune also helps it shift a lot better/faster
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
What the heck comes with those sad options?
i was wandering the same
Old 04-08-2011, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Next up for the black C5Z: driver mod.
that's what i was thinking...my grandma shifts faster than that....
Old 04-08-2011, 08:14 AM
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OT: But what does a bone stock c5z usually run? I know someone that just picked one up.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Not really, they ran pretty much dead even when he got in the cammed car.
That's not what I'm saying. You said something about a 200lb/20 hp difference due to the passenger (something like that I thought?), and I was just pointing out that it would be more like a 400lb/40 hp difference since the passenger didn't just get out, he got into the other vehicle. Perhaps I read your post wrong What WERE you saying in that post then?

Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
Maybe the same idiot that compares a 2011 GT to a 1998 F-body?!?

Now that I think about it, wasn't there some talk here not to long ago comparing the new GT to a C5Z and that the performance was close, like in a drivers race. Thought I saw something like that. Maybe im mistaken.
I remember asking how a bolt on one would do against a stock z...is that what you recall?
Originally Posted by Irunelevens
If I remember correctly, people were saying (truthfully) that a new 5.0 with a few bolt-ons and a tune would give a stock C5Z a good run. Obviously when both are modded, the Z06 is going to come out on top.
That's what I recall as well.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'm not very impressed with that cam. 200# = 20hp
Yeah I guess I missed what you meant here sir? I thought you meant that the cam couldn't be worth much since after only a 200 lb difference (or 20 hp) by removing the passenger, they still only pulled even. I was just clarifying that since the passenger switched it would be a 400 lb difference. The red z (w/out cam) was getting walked while carrying one 200 lb passenger. If you took the passenger out he'd have still got walked I suspect, albeit by a little less. BUT, when you put the passenger directly in the other vehicle, that made them even. That means it took 400 lbs (40 hp) difference for them to run even. Not bad imo for an untuned cam. That red bitch also runs a lot harder than some according to the OP. I may have misinterpreted what you meant though, so disregard if I'm talking to myself here and explaining what you already know lol. Anyways,
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Originally Posted by fiveoh
OT: But what does a bone stock c5z usually run? I know someone that just picked one up.
Overall, just figure anywhere in the 12's, depending on yr model, driver, conditions, whatever.
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At work I just read an article that compares a 5.0 GT to a GT500. They threw a blower on the 5.0 and tested both. The 5.0 pretty much killed it. It's in the new issue of 5.0 Magizine "5.0 Coyote vs 5.4 Condor"
Here's the link
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...dor/index.html

Nice kills and good vid's as usual.
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Originally Posted by fiveoh
OT: But what does a bone stock c5z usually run? I know someone that just picked one up.
Mid/Low 12's @ 116-118
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
my uncle had those in his 07 a6 and swapped them out for 3.42s it pulls a lot better up top. the tune also helps it shift a lot better/faster
A buddy of mine online just did full bolt-ons, 3.42s, and a good tune on his A6 Vette and he said it made a HUGE difference.
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My plans look like 3.42's, headers, catless x-pipe(no sniffers in Lafayette, LA), intake and a good tune. Should be near 400 rwhp and 11.80's in the quarter with dr's @ 120+

Sorry for the

Seems like the LS3 vettes run neck and neck with the c5z. Mod for mod also. 11.80's on street tires or dr's are good enough for me. Plus, the vette is pure Pimp Juice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIsMyqTQHWg



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