Stopsign32v

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Stock 245 series tires and IRS is a bitch. One of the things Ford does wrong is small tires from the factory.

Redfire 03

The LS1 is clearly the faster car and everybody and their mother knows that by now. This was cleared up back in 2001!

Irunelevens

Then stop thinking. I can't even think of a car besides the '99 Cobra that was over-rated by Ford. Nearly every car they have made in the recent past has either been spot on, or under-rated.
Nobody said it wasn't the faster car... but they are still close enough where the better driver will take the win 9 times out of 10. Which is exactly what he said;

Redfire 03

If you wanna throw the whole "drivers race" crap into mix then the LS1 has a significant advantage in that area as well. With the Cobras IRS it is extremely difficult to launch that car in stock trim trust me. Guys were lucky if they pulled anything short of a 2.2 60' in those cars. The advantage goes heavily in favor of the SRA F-body, compare average 60's for both if you want to. So the whole drivers race thing doesn't hold its weight in this discussion. Besides, .3/3mph by the end of the 1/4 mile is not exactly close in my opinion. With two half decent drivers the LS1 will win everytime.

HioSSilver

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Iruneleven's....go run your mustang. let us know how you did, if it's stock you'll quickly be changeing your name to Irun14's....lol And that's if it's a 5speed and you can drive a little. If it's a auto you could have yourself a 15sec ride. I typically resort to raceing any stock mustang (except cobra's and new 5.0)to in my 2500hd. From a 25-35 mph roll I can give them fits.

lemons12

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I completely agree, never stated different.
We have already seen that on average they are able to run within .3 and 3 mph within each other.
I can't count how many lid and catback ls1 m6 cars I have seen run low 9s in the 1/8.

Yes both having half decent drivers the ls1 will win without a doubt everytime, zero question about it.
Witha a 3/4 decent driver in the mustang and a 1/4 good driver in the ls1 it gets walked everytime. Or the half event driver bogs or spins a tad or shifts a tad early.

I'm not sure why you guys are arguing with me.. or stating the ls1 is faster?? Are you guys still stuck thinking that they are more than .3 and 3 mph difference?

That difference is about 1 car length in the 1/4, half in the 1/8. Not anything to go ape **** about.

**phone and didnt proof read was in hurry

lemons12

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Someone please tell me what thy consider a drivers race. Because you don't get much closer than that.

HioSSilver

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Because I've never had one stay that close to me. The pre boosted cobra's typically did'nt run what the rag mags said...ford was pretty notourius for sending out ringers back then. From my track experiance most people were .5 off what the mag said in those cobra's...same goes for 2v and 3v cars.

Redfire 03

Weren't you the one that said an 03/04 Cobra vs LS1 were a drivers race? Now things are starting to make sense...

A 6M LS1 is going to be 3 car lengths ahead by the end of the quarter mile. That's a pretty good margin. I could see if they both averaged identical high 13 sec ETs or we're within a tenth of each other. That's a true drivers race IMO when its that close. Because one driver can't drive worth a crap makes it a drivers race? I don't think so. With all things equal the 6M LS1 faster by the end of the quarter, and by a solid margin. Even you said after 90 it gets ugly, and if my memory serves correct both cars trap in the triple digits. This is a senseless argument really. Go ask the honest non brand loyal racers on the Mustang boards and they'll tell you first hand which car is clearly faster.

Redfire 03

Lots of truth to this. Not taking anything away from the N/A New Edge Cobra's they were nice. But you'd be hard pressed to find one running below 13.7x@102-103 in the 1/4. The IRS on those cars were a byaatch - straight wheel hop city. LOL Most were barely inching out the previous 96-98 models. You were more likely to see an F-body go bottom 13's than you would see a 99/01 Cobra get below 13.5.

lemons12

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Ok sure.. You guys win. Sorry I said anything, don't know what I was thinking.

Mike Morris

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Couple of things about the Evan Smith runs for those who get depressed looking at them

He is a very small guy(ie weighs next to nothing)

When that mag and MMFF do/did runs at Etown they prep the living **** out of it. Your damn shoe would come off walking over the pad.

mrbigjeep

just for info (for the retard that said n/a cobras are lucky to hit 100), my buddies 99cobra with just a muffler delete trapped 84 in the eighth...thats easily 104mph in the 1/4 mile

Irunelevens

Dude... I sold that car 3 years ago. And if you seriously think it would have run anything CLOSE to a 15.xx, you need to get out more.
Obviously

ohioborn80

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All i know my 97 cobra was slow as **** with bolt ons even. I hated that car. Used t o get my *** handed to me by 98-02 bolt on SS/Z28's.

thunderstruck507

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If we want to play that game someone needs to ignore the DA let me have an "11 sec club" title. Real world and the racer's math world aren't the same.

I have never and likely never will see a bone stock (street tires) 2v GT in the 13s in OK, AR, MO, or northern TX.

HioSSilver

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You can throw VA in that mix to, and my local track (Mason Dixon Drag @ about 800') is almost as good as MIR or Cecil Co. if they would do some track prep.

AnnivSS

I dont know if ive ever seen a bone stock mustang lol.

AnnivSS

I hope youre talking like low 9's in the 1/8th are shitty for that car i.e: horrible driver, spinning, running with one dead spark plug, etc.... My pos 305 third gen would run 9.0's all day long on street tires with a 2.3 60 foot and my stock SS has NEVER run anything slower than an 8.50 in the 1/8th.

Stopsign32v

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The closest I've gotten to buying a stock Mustang was my 90lx and it was 100% stock except for a set of Flowmaster 2 chambers. (waits for someone to say they came like that from the factory)