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Old 05-31-2011, 11:13 AM
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Nice kill OP... Its not hard to believe.. Look at all the jackasses that have money and cant drive for **** making badass cars slow.. ZR1 owners lol..
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
Didn't read all 4 pages of what I'm sure was a pissing match, but I have pulled on a GT500 on the street from a low roll and I have videos of me beating one with at least exhaust and drag radials at the track.

My traps that day? 109mph. He ran a 12.6 to my 12.4 (it was HOT and humid, around 3000ft DA). His best of the day was a 12.3 but he missed third briefly on the final race and I took the trophy home on a double win (he red lit and I still beat him).


Point being it is not hard for me to believe a modded c5z could take one on a roll, especially with a driver not on his game.
If he on stock tires i can see him running those times. But roll race I see him blowing tires off also. Specially if a 2011.

Oh we been fighting about ZO6 and GT-R...lol
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Originally Posted by 217zenki
Nice kill OP... Its not hard to believe.. Look at all the jackasses that have money and cant drive for **** making badass cars slow.. ZR1 owners lol..
Exactly. Driver Competence is important in any form of race. If he races you in the wrong gear he's gonna lose.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
If he on stock tires i can see him running those times. But roll race I see him blowing tires off also. Specially if a 2011.

Oh we been fighting about ZO6 and GT-R...lol
Figures lol didn't see that one coming though.




He was on Nitto radials, cutting 1.84 or so 60ft which was about the best I could manage that day for some reason. Both I mentioned were the older pre '10 GT500s.

The one at the track is a seasoned racer, that same car has gone low 10s high 9s with a Blowzilla setup which he removed and converted the car back to "almost stock". Never looked under the hood to know what that means.
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Originally Posted by TheHitman
Exactly. Driver Competence is important in any form of race. If he races you in the wrong gear he's gonna lose.
I am pretty sure That when I raced him he was in the right gear, I was bumper to bumper with me until 150, then I started pulling on him 'til around 170 or 160 (I was paying alot more attention the the road and how quickly I was leaving him) and then I thought he had enough.

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Nice kill OP... Its not hard to believe.. Look at all the jackasses that have money and cant drive for **** making badass cars slow.. ZR1 owners lol..
Old 05-31-2011, 12:48 PM
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I still doubt you are gonna pull a stock GT500 that hard with your mods. Your car with your mods would probably trap 118mph-120mph in the 1/4. His car if it is in fact a 2012+ GT500 with 550hp he would trap about the same and get the same ETs at the track. Even if you both were going all out in theory you wouldn't pull him as hard as you described.
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Originally Posted by Killemall
My taste is questionable? Lol... Had more than a few people tell me my ride is the nicest they've seen actually cruising the streets and get stopes by people everywhere I go who want to talk about mys ride. Bit your right since I think your beloved s2k is ugly then my taste is questionable. As to the rarity issue. I don't cRe what you you see more of.that's all coincidentAl. The reLity is that at 7k mDe a year the z06 is nearly twice as rare as the gtr. With it's 12k per year made. To some people this rarity means nothing at all.and to some it means a he'll of a lot. To me rarity is a huge factor. At 12k a year the gtr is produced much just like a regular car.

To put it in perspective. Their are 60k r35gtr's in the world. Their are 35k z06's and 9,500 srt10 vipers. Lamborghini hit their 10,000th gallarado off the assembly line a few months back.

Srt10 started back in 2003
Gallardo back in 2004
Z06 back in 2006

Yet their are 30 to 50 more r35 gtrs in the world.

Btw.the new gtr has Ben running 11.1through 11.3 in the rags. But it was no where near 134 mph. It was 123-125 mph. Still impressive but a ways off from the z06's beat mag times of 126 and 127 mph
Just because you happen to have a nice car, doesn't mean you have good taste. And while there might be fewer Z06s in the world than GT-Rs (you care about exclusivity when talking sub-$100k cars ), there are a ****-TON more normal Corvettes. Which unlike your dumb G35/GT-R comparison, actually DOES look quite a bit like a Z06. Car guys can spot the difference between a Z06 and regular Corvette from a mile away, but to people on the street who care about "rare" cars (like the people you love to impress) a Corvette is a Corvette for the most part.
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When talking the faster car.. you can't take averages. You have to look at the record for both platforms.

As of now, the Z is the faster of the two.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
When talking the faster car.. you can't take averages. You have to look at the record for both platforms.

As of now, the Z is the faster of the two.
Wekl fastest i find listed for a "stock" C6ZO6 is 10.98 and its 1. Rest are 11.1-11.4ish best. But also like to see what DA is on that run. A 200 DA can make a hug difference.

Fastest 2012 GT-R is 11.01. with a DA 1117. with a corrected time of 10.942 @ 125.456 MPH.

That would really be only way to compare. If one ran in -da and other ran in 1117 DA would have t o make it even. There fore that would make the GT-R faster. Same way you run in the heat of tx and i run at Cecil in the winter and we trying to compare times.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-GT-R...lip-22547.html
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You just assumed that the Z was ran in a -205084048 DA and said therefore the GTR was faster, without even knowing the DA.

You don't correct times. I won't do it for the Z just like I won't for the GTR. Whichever has the fastest recorded time, has the fastest recorded time.
And IIRC, there is a few in the 10s and I believe 10.8X to be the quickest.

I would also assume if you put tires on both platforms and ran them bone stock otherwise the Z would open that gap even more. That is *somewhat irrelevant however.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
You just assumed that the Z was ran in a -205084048 DA and said therefore the GTR was faster, without even knowing the DA.

You don't correct times. I won't do it for the Z just like I won't for the GTR. Whichever has the fastest recorded time, has the fastest recorded time.
And IIRC, there is a few in the 10s and I believe 10.8X to be the quickest.

I would also assume if you put tires on both platforms and ran them bone stock otherwise the Z would open that gap even more. That is *somewhat irrelevant however.
You can't compare two runs with out knowing everything about that run. I said i would like to know DA for the Z. I didn't say it was - or +.

When comparing times you have to take in effect things such as DA and stuff. If you are running in a DA of - or 0 and i am running in a DA of 1000 or more it will always show a huge difference. Not doing so will always be unfair to one car or the other. If some guy goes runs a GT-R in -3300 DA and runs a 10.5 then every one will bitch in favcor of the Z saying ay but he was in that -3300 DA in real life it will not run that here..They did same thing about 5.0s in Cali. Well they don't run that here so they not that fast ever.

There fore best way to do it is line them up together and run them. Just liek magazines do. Which ever one has the GT-R being .3-.6 faster. That real world testing. No DA effects or nothing.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
You can't compare two runs with out knowing everything about that run. I said i would like to know DA for the Z. I didn't say it was - or +.

When comparing times you have to take in effect things such as DA and stuff. If you are running in a DA of - or 0 and i am running in a DA of 1000 or more it will always show a huge difference. Not doing so will always be unfair to one car or the other. If some guy goes runs a GT-R in -3300 DA and runs a 10.5 then every one will bitch in favcor of the Z saying ay but he was in that -3300 DA in real life it will not run that here..They did same thing about 5.0s in Cali. Well they don't run that here so they not that fast ever.

There fore best way to do it is line them up together and run them. Just liek magazines do. Which ever one has the GT-R being .3-.6 faster. That real world testing. No DA effects or nothing.
Not me.

Here is your C6Z record corrected.
Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
11.128 @ 127.116 MPH

I don't have the exact slip for the GTR, unless I missed it so I can't correct it.

I would say its a dead nuts race.. Edge to the GTR stone stock.

Bone stock/drag radials....

1320'..........10.74
1320’ mph…129.50

Look to be about dead even with the GTR having a hair advantage.

O well... At least we still have the domestic ZR1!!
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Not me.

Here is your C6Z record corrected.
Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
11.128 @ 127.116 MPH

I don't have the exact slip for the GTR, unless I missed it so I can't correct it.

I would say its a dead nuts race.. Edge to the GTR stone stock.

Bone stock/drag radials....

1320'..........10.74
1320’ mph…129.50

Look to be about dead even with the GTR having a hair advantage.

O well... At least we still have the domestic ZR1!!
I posted link to GT-R one.

ZR1. They have the GT-R alpha 10. 1100hp.

Me i want a Cobra jet and just drive it on the street. 8 sec car off the showroom. Oh and it rated at 430hp...lol.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
I posted link to GT-R one.

ZR1. They have the GT-R alpha 10. 1100hp.

Me i want a Cobra jet and just drive it on the street. 8 sec car off the showroom. Oh and it rated at 430hp...lol.
Blah... Getting unreal now!

430hp 8 seconds??? Link?
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/04/f...laim-to-quick/

It's an expensive *** non street legal Whipple fed 5.4 liter race car.

You could buy a set of 3 or 4 clean *** race cars in the 9s for the price of one of those and have a whole team. I'm guessing they are built for a class?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Blah... Getting unreal now!

430hp 8 seconds??? Link?
That what they rate it. Every one knows it has way more power. As mention it is not street legal. Cost between base 91-101k. Only 50 or so made a yr. Dodge has a version with the Chally also. Chevy is looking at a version as well.

They laid claim to the quickest production car. I think they have it.

http://www.insideline.com/ford/musta...rd-racing.html

http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/c...tang-1.2529320

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/04/f...laim-to-quick/

Dodge Version.
http://www.mopar.com/performance/dragpak.html

Racers rejoice. Mopar is dropping a V-10 into the iconic Dodge Challenger.

The new race-only V-10 powered rear-wheel drive 2011 Mopar Challenger V10 Drag Pak features an 8.4-liter 512 cubic-inch engine with a 2-speed automatic transmission.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/04/f...laim-to-quick/

It's an expensive *** non street legal Whipple fed 5.4 liter race car.

You could buy a set of 3 or 4 clean *** race cars in the 9s for the price of one of those and have a whole team. I'm guessing they are built for a class?
It is built for class.

Also if you look how built what it has and what not it would cost you about that to build the car and it be as reliable as the cobra jet.
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Ive raced 3 differant gtrs. from 0 to 60 mph they are geared amazingly well and are incredibly fast. you wanna beat them then start the race at 75 mph. at this roll speed they are no longer in their sweet spot and fall on their face. i was able to edge out a 600 awhp and 680 awhp gtr back to back starting at this speed. but starting 60 and below they were both able to beat me.by 1 to two lengths when i was 470 rwhp.

Amazing cars performance wise but the high roll is their achiles hill.
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Ive raced 3 differant gtrs. from 0 to 60 mph they are geared amazingly well and are incredibly fast. you wanna beat them then start the race at 75 mph. at this roll speed they are no longer in their sweet spot and fall on their face. i was able to edge out a 600 awhp and 680 awhp gtr back to back starting at this speed. but starting 60 and below they were both able to beat me.by 1 to two lengths when i was 470 rwhp.

Amazing cars performance wise but the high roll is their achiles hill.
There is ways around that. and disagree with high roll. Maybe you haven't seen the videos of t hem killing modded ZR1's and other modded cars up high. All you have to do is mod it. Juts like any car. Alpha 10 kit gives it 1100hp. Alpha 12 is being worked and tested now.
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What happened to ZR1's? Would they take GTR's?



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