MACHXLR8

Nice! I like that car.
They have a Cobb Stage 3 Package for that also for under $3K. I would be into that.

Irunelevens

Hopefully that was just tongue-in-cheek.
Only thing I'm gonna be doing to that car for quite some time would be an audio upgrade. I'd be getting the ST1 (no MyFordTouch, 6-speaker system vs. 10-speaker in the ST2/3) with a moonroof, so very basic equipment. But Crutchfield has a nice upgrade package for $150 that would amp the speakers another 17w/channel and includes a 12" sub/box with a seperate 300w amp. Supposed to make an incredible impact on the stock system.

Edit: And for the record, I'm trying to choose between the Focus and a Civic Si sedan.

Lawhead

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If it wasn't then it will be now that it was exposed he was lying LoL

MACHXLR8

There really should be no decision to be made here....Get the Focus. It is a badass ride with a lot of nice features.

Irunelevens

Drive both, it's a lot closer than you would think just reading specs. The Civic is VERY close in acceleration, and that gap doesn't get too much bigger with basic bolt-ons. And the Civic has a nicer interior. But the Focus is just more fun to drive.

islander033

Civic is gay.

MACHXLR8

LOL...I was trying to be nice and not say that but, yea...I agree.

marc97taws6

iTrader: (6)

Every Civic SI I've had a ride in has been a dog.

Wait a sec, gap in a turbo car not widening with basic bolt-ons over a NA car with basic bolt-ons? This has to be a first
Agreed. Chick car

islander033

If we won't tell him the truth, then who will?

Irunelevens

You're talking about a FOCUS being less gay than anything. Splitting hairs with that one, guys. And yeah Mark, they are surprisingly close with basic intake/exhaust/tune. Now at that point the Focus is faster, but they're both in the 13s at well over 100mph.

marc97taws6

iTrader: (6)

Odd, figured a factory turbo car would pick up a lot more than the K24

Yeah, valid point. Focus is still pretty chick car vibe. At least it isn't a Mini Cooper though. That is the epitome of a chick car.

Irunelevens

These are both cars that I said I would NEVER buy. Hell, a Focus is what hit me on my bike and nearly killed me. But it is what it is. From the research I've done (and for anyone that knows how K-series Hondas perform with a few choice mods), the Civic is in the 13s with intake/exhaust/tune. Some people have done it without the exhaust. But because of the torque deficit, once I start carrying passengers/cargo, the Civic would feel it more.

OVA1

iTrader: (12)

Well, Hio is a nice guy, a decent human being, who builds his own cars. So, why would anyone do anything else?

It's racing.

Truth is people build all kinds of cars, for all kinds of reasons and no one except a minor cadre of **** retentive cranks really give a **** if a car's stock, and fewer people still use semantics to 'fool' people into believing that they mean one thing, instead of another.

And Fewer People STILL… care when the loudest mouth in the discussion is running a 'Factory Stock Car' with a big *** blower sittin' between the heads.

Count me as being camped over there… on that one.

Lawhead

iTrader: (14)

Its funny you come to his rescue when the person I was talking about WAS NOT Doug and someone completely different

real cute though....

Irunelevens

Yeah I read that (like most of his posts) like, "wtf is this guy talking about?"

Lawhead

iTrader: (14)

Big hammer must have loaned out his "Go Hio" Outfit and Pom Poms



I applaud Doug for such a Cheer leading section he's doing something right !

big hammer

I will never loan those out!

Lawhead

iTrader: (14)

Maybe he made his own to out do you ?

427zm

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Call the civic a chick car if you want, but it's the wiser choice. Being that this isn't a car you're going to keep forever, or have an emotional tie to, I'd be picking the civic all day long. Resale value and durability of Hondas is just hard to beat. The new focus is a neat looking car, but you don't know what resale value it'll have in a few years and the reliability is also a wild card. It's probably a nice car over all, but you've already said the civic has a better interior, imagine what'll it's interior vs. the focus interior will be like in 5 years. Rattles, creeks, and odd noises get annoying after awhile.

Just my .02

Irunelevens

And that is the biggest thing making this a hard decision for me. But Ford's quality has improved a LOT in the past few years, so I'm gonna keep an open mind. The bumper-to-bumper warranty has me covered for 3 years with either car, and then powertrain warranty goes out to 5 years. And since 3-5 years is how long I'll probably keep either (emphasis on probably), I'm not too worried on that aspect.