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Old 10-08-2013, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by willizm
EcoPoops FTW!!!
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Originally Posted by willizm
EcoPoops FTW!!!
The tq with tune.....Jesus
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hard to beat boosted ****. N/a stuff is simple, easy to work on and very reliable but it is tuff to compete with forced induction these days.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
Guilty .

I love it personally.. Makes the car seem different.

I was originally going to do the zl1 conversion 4 tips then decided **** it cost too much.
Redfire would have done it.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the new 6.2 will be around the same with a tune but without all the ecoboost issues. and 21 mpg!
Not saying I don't agree, but I wanna see results first lol

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hard to beat boosted ****. N/a stuff is simple, easy to work on and very reliable but it is tuff to compete with forced induction these days.
Boost is the way of the future, more complex but cant argue with the results.

I wonder what car people from 50 years ago would think if we told them 400whp out of a 3.5L v6
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the new 6.2 will be around the same with a tune but without all the ecoboost issues. and 21 mpg!
Yeah maybe if you compare crank tuned 6.2 hp/tq to tuned 3.5 ecoturd whp/wtq.

Besides it's a compliment that you would compare a more base/general purpose motor against the top of the line prospect of GM's 1500 trucks. Flattering really.
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Modern trucks like the new F150's and Silverados are not bad for what they are made for - impressive, really.

Comfortable, good power, lots of TQ, great MPG for a truck, nice interiors..but let's not pretend they are fast.
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Originally Posted by Puck
Modern trucks like the new F150's and Silverados are not bad for what they are made for - impressive, really.

Comfortable, good power, lots of TQ, great MPG for a truck, nice interiors..but let's not pretend they are fast.
Agreed they are not fast.

My 2013 6.2L Silverado 4x4 ran a 15.34@90mph bone stock...lol.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:30 PM
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Agreed they are not fast.

My 2013 6.2L Silverado 4x4 ran a 15.34@90mph bone stock...lol.
Amazing...isn't it? In the 1980s a 15.3 @ 90mph out of a stock vehicle would have been pretty damn good.
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Originally Posted by willizm
Yeah maybe if you compare crank tuned 6.2 hp/tq to tuned 3.5 ecoturd whp/wtq.

Besides it's a compliment that you would compare a more base/general purpose motor against the top of the line prospect of GM's 1500 trucks. Flattering really.
the ecoboosts are pretty slow stock. sure they wake up with a tune, but then the poor fuel economy gets even worse. the new 6.2 starts off already at nearly 60 more hp than the ecoboost and 40 more tq. wont be hard to beat.

and the ecoboost is not fords base truck engine. sorry.
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Originally Posted by ZFreie
Not saying I don't agree, but I wanna see results first lol

Boost is the way of the future, more complex but cant argue with the results.

I wonder what car people from 50 years ago would think if we told them 400whp out of a 3.5L v6
actually the most fuel efficient trucks are still n\a.
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Originally Posted by islander033
Agreed they are not fast.

My 2013 6.2L Silverado 4x4 ran a 15.34@90mph bone stock...lol.
5000 da?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
5000 da?
3500ft D/A

I actually thought it did alright considering the average looked to be around 15.5s for anything I found on the webz.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
DD showdown part duex


I promise i won't sell this one like I did the Bimmer. That was in illinois for what 2 weeks lol.
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hard to beat boosted ****. N/a stuff is simple, easy to work on and very reliable but it is tuff to compete with forced induction these days.
I agree. The way that modern PCM's can accommodate and monitor for pre KR and automatically adjust timing along with advancments in turbo chargers that allow for quicker spool it's no doubt shinning brighter and brighter. Curious to see how the v6 TT GM is putting out would do in cars like the ATS-v or a GN revival.
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Modern trucks like the new F150's and Silverados are not bad for what they are made for - impressive, really.

Comfortable, good power, lots of TQ, great MPG for a truck, nice interiors..but let's not pretend they are fast.
If the latest versions of these trucks weren't out yet then I wouldn't be in the market. The big three are coming a long way in making refined trucks for the everyman that are capable and comfortable.

Wait?!?! so are you saying I can't has race truck?

FWIW tune only ecoboost trucks are hitting on average the mid to high 13's. Not bad for what it is anyway. Some of the Socal tunes are 13.3-13.5 tune only. The newest tune has been making great power as my link above suggests.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the new 6.2 will be around the same with a tune but without all the ecoboost issues. and 21 mpg!

Originally Posted by big hammer
the ecoboosts are pretty slow stock. sure they wake up with a tune, but then the poor fuel economy gets even worse. the new 6.2 starts off already at nearly 60 more hp than the ecoboost and 40 more tq. wont be hard to beat.

and the ecoboost is not fords base truck engine. sorry.
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5000 da?

I've noticed that you tend to pad numbers in your favor here and in other posts. One could only assume you do a similar 'padding', as it were, with a gym sock in your pants to impress the ladies or potential suitors. Now I am not here to judge you. I for one am glad you do such admirable things with such a level of pride and perseverance. It's like when I observe retarded children trying to do the simplest of chores or activities. I commend them on their indefatigability and find it sooo, so, inspiring. If a retarded child can struggle with the simplest of tasks like addition and subtraction, such as yourself, then what does that say about our compassionate society for supporting this behavior?

Ford Ecoboost 365hp 420tq
Ecotec3 6.2 420hp 450tq

RealDifference 55hp 30tq
HammerDerpfference 60hp 40tq
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Redfire would have done it.
Redfire has like 8 vettes.
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Originally Posted by willizm
EcoPoops FTW!!!
Don't want to deflate the balloon any, but with my Ecoboost (running 87 ONLY, it's a company truck) it's only good for 1st and 2nd gear pulls to redline. If you hit 3rd WOT, it'll pull timing around 4k and that carries in ANY gear above that as well.

Again, this is factory tuned, and on 87. I'm sure 93 would cure this condition, but it exists.

Hammer, I appreciate the GM loyalty and I'm sure the new 6.2 will be nails, but AFM can be an issue. My last 5.3 had to have the cam, lifters, and pushrods all replaced @ 33k and was making lifter noise again when I turned it in at 95k. That said, my '07 and '04 with 5.3's performed flawlessly.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
Don't want to deflate the balloon any, but with my Ecoboost (running 87 ONLY, it's a company truck) it's only good for 1st and 2nd gear pulls to redline. If you hit 3rd WOT, it'll pull timing around 4k and that carries in ANY gear above that as well.

Again, this is factory tuned, and on 87. I'm sure 93 would cure this condition, but it exists.

Hammer, I appreciate the GM loyalty and I'm sure the new 6.2 will be nails, but AFM can be an issue. My last 5.3 had to have the cam, lifters, and pushrods all replaced @ 33k and was making lifter noise again when I turned it in at 95k. That said, my '07 and '04 with 5.3's performed flawlessly.
You also have some scorching hot temps down their in TX. I wouldn't doubt those IAT's have something to do with it
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Originally Posted by willizm
You also have some scorching hot temps down their in TX. I wouldn't doubt those IAT's have something to do with it
True statement. The only reason it was on my mind was due to it pulling timing on me entering the highway on my way home. Today was a cool day, the high was only 86*.
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