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Old 07-23-2011, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
12.5 in a basically stock car?
LMAO i was just thinking the same thing
Old 07-23-2011, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
LMAO i was just thinking the same thing
makes my car seem slow.....i was proud of my low 13 with a lid/exhaust!
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
12.5 in a basically stock car?
It had Riken tires if that made any difference lol Its an 01 automatic too.

Heres the dyno, the 311hp was the cut-out open and the 302hp was closed. The room was like 90 degrees so im sure if it had better ventilation it woulda squeezed out a bit more power. I dynod it with Ebay LTs and ORY (cant find the graph) but it put down 331hp and I thinks 330tq

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Old 07-24-2011, 12:18 AM
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Here's the thing... If he is lying and doesn't want anyone to know, nobody will ever know. This isn't new school ****, people did it back in the 60s and made money.
Ported stock heads, port stock intake, stock cam or possibly aftermarket if you aren't going to pull covers to show springs, tune... if you really want to go lengths he could have a 408 in his car.

He isn't going to reveal anything and nobody will ever find anything..

My opinion, I don't think it is that... And I have my reasons, good ones at that. If it is anything he is spraying a 50-75 hit and it is very well hidden, it would explain everything that seems odd and the reason he wouldn't have to sand bag only Dynos 350rw etc etc to show proof..
With that said... He seems pretty certain that nobody will find nitrous.

I don't know what to think... I have seem videos to support his side and a small shot side. I could honestly care less. Either way, he is having fun with it and I enjoy his posts, how he narrated the Vid was awesome.

Cliff... Speculate all you want... nobody will know unless he wants you to know or he wouldnt be so cocky/sure about it. I have reasons to believe both, however I could care less and enjoy reading the posts.
Old 07-24-2011, 12:27 AM
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I'm cocky about what I'm saying because what I'm saying is true. I've never beaten anyone for any amount of money in my GTO.
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This is some good **** here. I've seen the car in person myself many times. Sounded stock, and looked stock (except for the longtubes back when it had them). IDK what to say other than that he can drive pretty damn good. Freind had a longtube/ intake 6.0 GTO M6 and my brother's supercharged stang beat it good, but the kid couldn't drive. My bro raced ju1ce and it was dead even. I think a lot of people underestimate GTO's....just like when the LS1 F bodies came out, people were running mid 13's. Now after some time, people are running mid to high 12's with lid, drag radial cars. A driver mod goes a long way.

Oh and Mach 1 boy...comparing a mach 1 to a 6.0 GTO is just foolish. Mach 1's had a tough enough time competing with LS1 4th gens and the 6.0 goats are much quicker. Sure you can make a car get off the line, but it takes HP to pull....and mach 1's lose in that aspect.
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Im not saying hes lying because i dont know the guy, and obviously have never looked at or have ever seen his car. But the only thing i find funny is what someone mentioned earlier. When starting in the roll race he left like he had nice little chunk more hp. Being a better driver doesnt account for just straight walking away when starting the race. The cars were in gear and they hit the gas. Doesnt take an expert to do that. But once the shifting starts, yes, it appears he is a very good driver.
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
This is some good **** here. I've seen the car in person myself many times. Sounded stock, and looked stock (except for the longtubes back when it had them). IDK what to say other than that he can drive pretty damn good. Freind had a longtube/ intake 6.0 GTO M6 and my brother's supercharged stang beat it good, but the kid couldn't drive. My bro raced ju1ce and it was dead even. I think a lot of people underestimate GTO's....just like when the LS1 F bodies came out, people were running mid 13's. Now after some time, people are running mid to high 12's with lid, drag radial cars. A driver mod goes a long way.

Oh and Mach 1 boy...comparing a mach 1 to a 6.0 GTO is just foolish. Mach 1's had a tough enough time competing with LS1 4th gens and the 6.0 goats are much quicker. Sure you can make a car get off the line, but it takes HP to pull....and mach 1's lose in that aspect.
A stock M6 LS2 GTO is faster then a stock M6 LS1 since when? Much quicker? not at all. Even yes.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
A stock M6 LS2 GTO is faster then a stock M6 LS1 since when? Much quicker? not at all. Even yes.
I agree with that.
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Originally Posted by work in progress
has to be a flux capacitor, you know they create 1.1 jigawatts...
That's old school, he has the Mr. Fusion
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
A stock M6 LS2 GTO is faster then a stock M6 LS1 since when? Much quicker? not at all. Even yes.
Better weight/power... period.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Better weight/power... period.

Better weight? The gto?
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
A stock M6 LS2 GTO is faster then a stock M6 LS1 since when? Much quicker? not at all. Even yes.
Ever since 2005. They have about 2mph on a stock ls1 pretty solid.
Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Better weight? The gto?
better weight to power ratio.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Ever since 2005. They have about 2mph on a stock ls1 pretty solid.

better weight to power ratio.
Yeah true, I dont see how his car pulls away from the same car thats modded from a roll. Either guy let him pull away or his car has more power period
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Originally Posted by Kaddo114
Put him in a different stock GTO and see what happens. Plain and simple. Someone go give him a 100% stock/never modded, never on a dyno LS2 6 speed GTO and see what happens. Run it on a strip and record it. We are testing the driver here correct?
I agree..

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Originally Posted by Kaddo114
Put him in a different stock GTO and see what happens. Plain and simple. Someone go give him a 100% stock/never modded, never on a dyno LS2 6 speed GTO and see what happens. Run it on a strip and record it. We are testing the driver here correct?
Please do this so we can end this. Race the same two modded gtos you ran and the same amg If you can. It would prove everything.
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Yeah finding a bone stock GTO that has an owner willing to let me beat on it will be easy... then when the exact same thing happens, everyone can just say that it was staged or the other people can't drive.

There is no winning on the interwebz.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Ever since 2005. They have about 2mph on a stock ls1 pretty solid.

better weight to power ratio.
From what I have seen they might be a mph or so faster, but the goats usually can't launch worth a **** for some reason
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I launched mine just fine on the stock tires, it was the 1-2 shift where things got hairy.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Yeah finding a bone stock GTO that has an owner willing to let me beat on it will be easy... then when the exact same thing happens, everyone can just say that it was staged or the other people can't drive.

There is no winning on the interwebz.
Even if only a cai and no tune.
Or Hell a stock 01-02fbody with a lid and catback. I would be interested in that as well, although most wouldn't accept it.

Originally Posted by z99ls1
From what I have seen they might be a mph or so faster, but the goats usually can't launch worth a **** for some reason
Irs.

On average It Is a solid 2mph faster. Easier finding a bone stock goat than an fbody.


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