2001 Camaro Z28 vs 2010 Camaro RS
10-25-2011, 07:32 PM
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Check my signature. I ran a 13.57 1/4 mile. Pretty sure an auto SS could do better than that, and a good manual driver even better. I might beat a manual though, if he's a bad driver. I have beaten a 2011 5.0 Mustang after all, and it was a manual.
10-25-2011, 09:27 PM
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I'm not so sure. I went and test drove one. I freaking saw 2 M6s before the salesman moved in on me, maybe someone was already buying them, I don't know, but he wanted me to test drive the auto. He kept encouraging me to punch it. At the time, my Camaro, which I'd driven to the dealer was intake/catback, and noticeably quicker. The guy actually said "how's that compared to that old Camaro?"
I seriously thought it must be a V6, and didn't believe it wasn't until I popped the hood. I was disgusted. It lacked ***** and seemed to take all day to upshift and hunt for gears when you punch it.
No question you could probably tune and wake the car up a lot, but I know many people who own them and they wouldn't dream of doing this and mess with their warranty.
I seriously thought it must be a V6, and didn't believe it wasn't until I popped the hood. I was disgusted. It lacked ***** and seemed to take all day to upshift and hunt for gears when you punch it.
No question you could probably tune and wake the car up a lot, but I know many people who own them and they wouldn't dream of doing this and mess with their warranty.
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10-25-2011, 09:28 PM
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10-25-2011, 09:30 PM
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I'm not so sure. I went and test drove one. I freaking saw 2 6-speeds before the salesman moved in on me, maybe someone was already buying them, I don't know, but he wanted me to test drive the auto. He kept encouraging me to punch it. At the time, my Camaro, which I'd driven to the dealer was intake/catback, and noticeably quicker. The guy actually said "how's that compared to that old Camaro?"
I seriously thought it must be a V6, and didn't believe it wasn't until I popped the hood. I was disgusted. It lacked ***** and seemed to take all day to upshift and hunt for gears when you punch it.
No question you could probably tune and wake the car up a lot, but I know many people who own them and they wouldn't dream of doing this and mess with their warranty.
I seriously thought it must be a V6, and didn't believe it wasn't until I popped the hood. I was disgusted. It lacked ***** and seemed to take all day to upshift and hunt for gears when you punch it.
No question you could probably tune and wake the car up a lot, but I know many people who own them and they wouldn't dream of doing this and mess with their warranty.
Also the new auto SS makes 400HP, compared to the M6 with 426HP. That's a big enough difference to make one noticeably quicker.
10-25-2011, 09:36 PM
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Is your current Camaro a 6 speed? 'cause mine is an automatic, but for the most part I think it's a well responsive auto, shifts pretty hard, holds RPM's long enough usually, etc.
Also the new auto SS makes 400HP, compared to the M6 with 426HP. That's a big enough difference to make one noticeably quicker.
Also the new auto SS makes 400HP, compared to the M6 with 426HP. That's a big enough difference to make one noticeably quicker.
10-25-2011, 09:38 PM
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My current car is a 2000 A4. Like I said it was intake/exhaust only and I was disgusted when I test drove the 2010 SS. Sure it falt like a much "nicer" car, aside from feeling like sitting in a school bus, but I expected to feel 400 hp and was disappointed. The M6s are a different story, which I know now, but he A6s are apparently tuned for economy or safety from the factory.
10-25-2011, 09:52 PM
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Yeah this was back when the dealers here first started getting the 2010s. Maybe they've improved the shitty tune, don't know. I kind of lost interest. My car may be cheap and plasticky by comparison but I still like it better. Feels like a muscle car!
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Because 489WHP is heavily modded in my book, considering the car makes around 300WHP stock.
10-26-2011, 01:09 PM
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I raced a 5th gen SS from 45-115. Well kinda. I slowed down to wait for him to try to pass me and we he hopped on it and moved over to pass me, I floored it. He pulled me at first, my nose to his door. Then I pulled forward, nose to nose at the top of second into third. At 115, we were still pretty even so he let off and moved over behind me. I have an A4 and have no idea what he had. I didn't even know it was an SS (i could just see the red badge) until he jumped on it.
10-26-2011, 01:55 PM
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I'm not so sure. I went and test drove one. I freaking saw 2 M6s before the salesman moved in on me, maybe someone was already buying them, I don't know, but he wanted me to test drive the auto. He kept encouraging me to punch it. At the time, my Camaro, which I'd driven to the dealer was intake/catback, and noticeably quicker. The guy actually said "how's that compared to that old Camaro?"
I seriously thought it must be a V6, and didn't believe it wasn't until I popped the hood. I was disgusted. It lacked ***** and seemed to take all day to upshift and hunt for gears when you punch it.
No question you could probably tune and wake the car up a lot, but I know many people who own them and they wouldn't dream of doing this and mess with their warranty.
I seriously thought it must be a V6, and didn't believe it wasn't until I popped the hood. I was disgusted. It lacked ***** and seemed to take all day to upshift and hunt for gears when you punch it.
No question you could probably tune and wake the car up a lot, but I know many people who own them and they wouldn't dream of doing this and mess with their warranty.
oh yea forgot to mention once the New SS's go into the low octane table the only way to revert back to the high octane table is to pull fuses overnight and let the PCM reset itself or you have to take it to a dealer and have them re-flash the car. Once it goes into low octane made it cannot switch back to the high octane table on its own.
ever wonder at the track why some new SS's run low 13 to high 12's, while others cant seem to get better than a low 14.....******* low octane table....
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10-26-2011, 02:30 PM
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one of the problems with the new camaros is that when they're delivered the dealership walks around with a gas caddy and fills all the cars on the lot with REGULAR unleaded fuel. i have read that about 90 percent of the new owners experiences this, the problem with this is the car reverts to a low octane table wich pulls massive amounts of timing and gererally makes the car run like ****(makes it idle rougher, get 2-3 points lees on millage and your missing like 15 20 hp) with the low octane table these cars will run low 14's if not mid 14's. By pulling certain fuses you can make the PCM reset itself and start over in the high octane table, once you do this the car already feel's noticeably stronger with a CAI i've hit high 12's in my convertible, and yes the ls3 feels stronger and responds to mods better than the L99(automatic SS). And FWIW ive torched a couple new 5.0's like it wasnt **** but in a stick car its all about the driver.
oh yea forgot to mention once the New SS's go into the low octane table the only way to revert back to the high octane table is to pull fuses overnight and let the PCM reset itself or you have to take it to a dealer and have them re-flash the car. Once it goes into low octane made it cannot switch back to the high octane table on its own.
ever wonder at the track why some new SS's run low 13 to high 12's, while others cant seem to get better than a low 14.....******* low octane table....
oh yea forgot to mention once the New SS's go into the low octane table the only way to revert back to the high octane table is to pull fuses overnight and let the PCM reset itself or you have to take it to a dealer and have them re-flash the car. Once it goes into low octane made it cannot switch back to the high octane table on its own.
ever wonder at the track why some new SS's run low 13 to high 12's, while others cant seem to get better than a low 14.....******* low octane table....
Just like GM
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one of the problems with the new camaros is that when they're delivered the dealership walks around with a gas caddy and fills all the cars on the lot with REGULAR unleaded fuel. i have read that about 90 percent of the new owners experiences this, the problem with this is the car reverts to a low octane table wich pulls massive amounts of timing and gererally makes the car run like ****(makes it idle rougher, get 2-3 points lees on millage and your missing like 15 20 hp) with the low octane table these cars will run low 14's if not mid 14's. By pulling certain fuses you can make the PCM reset itself and start over in the high octane table, once you do this the car already feel's noticeably stronger with a CAI i've hit high 12's in my convertible, and yes the ls3 feels stronger and responds to mods better than the L99(automatic SS). And FWIW ive torched a couple new 5.0's like it wasnt **** but in a stick car its all about the driver.
oh yea forgot to mention once the New SS's go into the low octane table the only way to revert back to the high octane table is to pull fuses overnight and let the PCM reset itself or you have to take it to a dealer and have them re-flash the car. Once it goes into low octane made it cannot switch back to the high octane table on its own.
ever wonder at the track why some new SS's run low 13 to high 12's, while others cant seem to get better than a low 14.....******* low octane table....
oh yea forgot to mention once the New SS's go into the low octane table the only way to revert back to the high octane table is to pull fuses overnight and let the PCM reset itself or you have to take it to a dealer and have them re-flash the car. Once it goes into low octane made it cannot switch back to the high octane table on its own.
ever wonder at the track why some new SS's run low 13 to high 12's, while others cant seem to get better than a low 14.....******* low octane table....
10-26-2011, 02:56 PM
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oh yea forgot to mention once the New SS's go into the low octane table the only way to revert back to the high octane table is to pull fuses overnight and let the PCM reset itself or you have to take it to a dealer and have them re-flash the car. Once it goes into low octane made it cannot switch back to the high octane table on its own.
10-26-2011, 02:59 PM
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yea idk why they would make it to where the car stays in low octane mode once its there. doesnt make since ill bet half the SS's out there are in the low octane table and i bet non car enthusiast's dont even have a clue i just happen to read up on it on camaro5 if i hadn't read that id prolly still be riding around on the low octane table.....