My first kill in the 12 1SS
I dont think its a real surprise that 5th gens are a little quicker than stock 4th gens... From what I've seen down here in fl 5th gens generally trap 109-110 ish while m6 fbods are around 107 so a 2-3mph difference isnt huge but it def gives an advantage to a 5th gen however throw a couple small mods (catback, free mods) on the 4th gen and they're door to door. I personally think the T/A should have done better here in this race but **** happens. Lol i think thats a fair understandment on how the two cars match up.
Tires would've helped a little...but not enough. 5th gens are simply a faster/better car. The only 4th gen that would have a chance stock for stock would be a Camaro SS (lighter that the TA's) with the optional SLP stuff.
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Going by this logic the best 4th Gen. to "have a chance" would be a Formula as it was the lightest of all the 4th Gens. My WS6, heaviest of all 4th Gens, went 12.82 @ 110 mph stock. It had a few other 12.9x runs but would typically go 13.0-13.2 around 108 mph.
Formula's were not the lightest. All options being equal they are gonna be 20# or so heavier just because of the flip lights. A friends Firehawk Formula was 30# heavier than my SS, and my car had leather( about +6lb). Same scale same day 1/4 tank gas for both. Both full weight newer cars.
Formula's were not the lightest. All options being equal they are gonna be 20# or so heavier just because of the flip lights. A friends Firehawk Formula was 30# heavier than my SS, and my car had leather( about +6lb). Same scale same day 1/4 tank gas for both. Both full weight newer cars.
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Who stays stock in these cars? The 4th gen will always reign supreme because of the weight advantage. My LS3 Formula loves racing LS3 5th gens. It's not fair really.
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True that, everyone loled at my gutted lt1 a4 hardtop but with me in it and everything out I was close to 3100 and that was all free weight reduction. Thing hauled *** for what it wasnt lol
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I believe an m6 1sc car would be lighter than all of those others listed. Weird thing is I've seen plenty of them run the same times (slower really) than my ws6 car. I test drove one and was not impressed at all.
Whatever the case, the ls3 is a ******* monster in comparison to the ls1, power will overcome the weight difference mod for mod imho.
Whatever the case, the ls3 is a ******* monster in comparison to the ls1, power will overcome the weight difference mod for mod imho.
You really don't know what your talking about do ya?