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Old 01-14-2012 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by redtan
Ok kid, I got my first GTP in 2000 when I got my license and have seen what those can do.

As much as I liked that car and respect what it can do, you're straight up delirious.
In all reality... the capabilities of the 3800 platforms are far and above what they were 10-12 years ago.

And anyone who did a 3.4, intake and a PCM is ******* stupid.
A car with headers ONLY would smoke the **** out of that setup.

I ran 13.9 @ 100 with headers, rockers, intake and a tune, on the stock pulley.
Added a cam/3.2'' pulley and on all seasons right off the highway I ran high 12s.
Old 01-14-2012 | 07:01 PM
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With a cam/IC/tiny pulley/headers/ and a solid tune. ON TOP of a built/geared trans, I can see them pulling off low 12's and MAYBE a high 11.

But they honestly don't pull off 11's very often on M90 setups.

They aren't quite on par with LS1's, but they are respectable for what they are, so why not leave it at that?

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
In all reality... the capabilities of the 3800 platforms are far and above what they were 10-12 years ago.

And anyone who did a 3.4, intake and a PCM is ******* stupid.
A car with headers ONLY would smoke the **** out of that setup.


I ran 13.9 @ 100 with headers, rockers, intake and a tune, on the stock pulley.
Added a cam/3.2'' pulley and on all seasons right off the highway I ran high 12s.
Lol, when I first got my Regal I did a 3.4 pulley, FWI and u bend delete, logged it and found out I was seeing about 10* of KR.

M90's are ****** heat pumps.
Old 01-14-2012 | 07:34 PM
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Thats why they call them Heatons.
Old 01-14-2012 | 07:56 PM
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wait, since when did an IC give you a half second in the 1/4? Maybe a tenth or two at the most, but a half second?
Old 01-14-2012 | 07:57 PM
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You just said that a ''maxed out'' m90 GTP would run high 11's. Obviously you don't know much about them.
One or two GTPs in the world doing that does not mean that ALL maxed out M90s do that.

I've met several people with 2.6-2.8" pulleys, full IC, heads, cam, built trans and don't remember them being mid 10 second cars.
Old 01-14-2012 | 08:07 PM
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A full sized intercooler only adds 1 tenth? Rofl! Do you guys even know what the benifits of running an IC are?
Old 01-14-2012 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by willizm
wait, since when did an IC give you a half second in the 1/4? Maybe a tenth or two at the most, but a half second?
Since when? Since the blower does nothing but generate heat and has no factory intercooler. After you install the intercooler you can also run a smaller pulley. Typical gains on the 3800 are 30-50whp when done right.

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One or two GTPs in the world doing that does not mean that ALL maxed out M90s do that.

I've met several people with 2.6-2.8" pulleys, full IC, heads, cam, built trans and don't remember them being mid 10 second cars.
There's more than a couple m90 cars in the 10s.
11s is cake if you know what you're doing. The guys you were talking to likely only thought they knew what they were doing. There's a fine line.
Old 01-14-2012 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FuryZ28
A full sized intercooler only adds 1 tenth? Rofl! Do you guys even know what the benifits of running an IC are?
Lol, do you even own a car that has an IC? And, no a turbonater doesn't count as a turbocharged car either.
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Since when? Since the blower does nothing but generate heat and has no factory intercooler. After you install the intercooler you can also run a smaller pulley. Typical gains on the 3800 are 30-50whp when done right.
Show me a dyno graph of just an IC making 50whp gains. Yeah when you bundle in a pulley and probably a subsequent tune you are going to see those gains, but an IC alone is not going to give that car a half second in the 1/4 and a 50whp gain.
Old 01-14-2012 | 08:48 PM
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11s is cake if you know what you're doing. The guys you were talking to likely only thought they knew what they were doing. There's a fine line.
Wow, what are we all doing in LSx powered cars on this forum? We could be driving grand prixs and hitting 11s without even trying.

Damn I should've never sold my car, apparently I was missed this 11s is easy as cake memo.
Old 01-14-2012 | 08:50 PM
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Were not talkin about the gains of just slapping an intercooler on and not changing anything else. Are you really that dense?
Old 01-14-2012 | 08:51 PM
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You sir are a fucktard!
Old 01-14-2012 | 09:00 PM
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Who the hell puts a full sized intercooler on a car like a gtp, just not change anything else? Lol
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Originally Posted by FuryZ28
Were not talkin about the gains of just slapping an intercooler on and not changing anything else. Are you really that dense?
You said in the page before that an IC is going to make a big difference. I'm sorry but an IC is not going to pick up more than a tenth or two in the quarter yet you seem to laugh and think that is absurdly low.
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You sir are a fucktard!
I'm with you on this. I doubt the guy has anything faster than a 14 second car let alone any experience with FI cars yet he questions whether I know what the benefits of an intercooler are. lol
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Haha. There is a honda thread looking for *** hats that run there mouth but cant run or drive.
Old 01-14-2012 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FuryZ28
Who the hell puts a full sized intercooler on a car like a gtp, just not change anything else? Lol
prolly same group of idiots that mod them period
Old 01-14-2012 | 09:06 PM
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They PROLLY wouldnt even need to mod one at all to take down a 92 cobra.
Old 01-14-2012 | 09:07 PM
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^ you sound like my dad we were driving down the highway when we here a bee turned out to be a fart can miata. He asked why do they even do that? I just say trying to make up for a small problem.
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Willimz, wake up I think this is the same douche that got banned twice feq weeks ago
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Originally Posted by FuryZ28
They PROLLY wouldnt even need to mod one at all to take down a 92 cobra.
A stock 92 would. I think he has a different motor.
Old 01-14-2012 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FuryZ28
They PROLLY wouldnt even need to mod one at all to take down a 92 cobra.
You are correct. No such car.


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