LS1 vs 5.0
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You packed gear in your Mach and out tired Sepno at a dragstrip....big deal. Run him again on the street and see what happens with equal footing. Sepno was'nt even doin a good job driving. There is no reason other than driver if a bolt-on 4th gen ls1 car don't go well into the 12's @ 112-114 mph. I have helped friends on 3 ls1 cars that went 12.9-13.0@109-110 with only 2 mods or even just free mods and that's with stock tires.
Run that 117mph ls1 on the street and see what happens. It would look something like this for you![Burnout](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_burnout.gif)
Run that 117mph ls1 on the street and see what happens. It would look something like this for you
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Good God, Sepno himself is a much better sport than you are. Now I know why you need a 427 and a built rear to run me. If I beat you I bet we would never hear from you again.
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Think about it dude. Bolt-on ls1's should go 112-114 as a average @ full weight on regular tires. His has ls6 heads which should net him 20-30 hp. 117 is not out of the range that would be possible and he was on a dr. My car was on the stock gear,full weight,stock cat-back and it went 112.8 when it had the ls1 in it.
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so your saying your car with 20-30 more hp would trap 117mph? And average bolt ons id say would be more like 110-112. Anything more then that is strong running for what it is. And he may be on drag radials... but if hes coming out soft... he is wasting a lot of time getting the car up to speed. What i would be more curious to know is what his car traps in the 8th mile.
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IMO bolt on LS1s run 110-112mph and cam only LS1s run 114-117mph. But hey this said 117mph car could have higher compression and worked heads for all we know. Still 12.3@117mph is pathetic.
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I just dont understand why the Ford guys over rate the fords and under rate the chevys and why the chevy guys over rate the chevys and under rate the fords. The 2 biggest aspects that will change how a car will run for what it has, is driver, and Da/weather. With the same parts... the cars will make the same hp give or take 5-10hp. Ive seen modded Mach 1s make over 300whp run consistant 13.2-13.4s at 107-108 on the exact same day and track i would see a better driver take a stock mach 1 with 270whp to run 12.7 at 107. No his car is not a freak.... no the modded one is not a slouch.. On the roll, the modded one will pull while in the gear but fall a little more on the shift. The power is there, the driver is not. The same thing goes with F bodies. The strongest bolt on factory weight F body i have seen in person went 12.1 at 113.7 (ill give him 114mph because he was on the limiter for the last 50 ft in 4th gear). That kid could drive the ***** off anything. The car was strong on the roll... but it couldnt even get close to 117mph and it had 4.10s. Im willing to bet that with a stock set of 243 heads.. it still wouldnt do 117mph. Not without some weight reduction and more aggressive launching.
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You have a heads cam LS1 and you bad mouth Fords. Hmm let me make a post on here saying my Mustang has yet to run any LS1 anything from a dig and lose. Newsflash you are not that fast even though you killed a few local OKIEs
I can't wait to do another n/a Mustang. Once my Supra is done its on......
I can't wait to do another n/a Mustang. Once my Supra is done its on......
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You have an endless bag of excuses. I counted 7 excuses in that post as to why a slow bolt on 4.6L N/A Mustang walked a full bolt on LS1.
Good God, Sepno himself is a much better sport than you are. Now I know why you need a 427 and a built rear to run me. If I beat you I bet we would never hear from you again.![Lurk](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies3/lurk.gif)
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Good God, Sepno himself is a much better sport than you are. Now I know why you need a 427 and a built rear to run me. If I beat you I bet we would never hear from you again.
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so your saying your car with 20-30 more hp would trap 117mph? And average bolt ons id say would be more like 110-112. Anything more then that is strong running for what it is. And he may be on drag radials... but if hes coming out soft... he is wasting a lot of time getting the car up to speed. What i would be more curious to know is what his car traps in the 8th mile.
I just dont understand why the Ford guys over rate the fords and under rate the chevys and why the chevy guys over rate the chevys and under rate the fords. The 2 biggest aspects that will change how a car will run for what it has, is driver, and Da/weather. With the same parts... the cars will make the same hp give or take 5-10hp. Ive seen modded Mach 1s make over 300whp run consistant 13.2-13.4s at 107-108 on the exact same day and track i would see a better driver take a stock mach 1 with 270whp to run 12.7 at 107. No his car is not a freak.... no the modded one is not a slouch.. On the roll, the modded one will pull while in the gear but fall a little more on the shift. The power is there, the driver is not. The same thing goes with F bodies. The strongest bolt on factory weight F body i have seen in person went 12.1 at 113.7 (ill give him 114mph because he was on the limiter for the last 50 ft in 4th gear). That kid could drive the ***** off anything. The car was strong on the roll... but it couldnt even get close to 117mph and it had 4.10s. Im willing to bet that with a stock set of 243 heads.. it still wouldnt do 117mph. Not without some weight reduction and more aggressive launching.
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If your list my mods don't forget stock longblock ls6.
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Your times are correct above on bolt on LS1 times/traps
The faster one, duh
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Well no ****, a bolt on Mach 1 would lose to a swappedmotoredmassiveweightreductionedaeromodified faceplatedtransfullbolton400rwhpfbody.
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I'm talkin bout me goin over Sep's car and driving it, I should've been more clear.....no doubt my car would not even be fair.
With what I know now I could get a pretty much full weight bolt-on ls1 to trap 115+ that would made low 12's a snap.
With what I know now I could get a pretty much full weight bolt-on ls1 to trap 115+ that would made low 12's a snap.
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Not really, that's been my experiance. Not very hard to a ls 1 over 110.
The difference between me and Sepno is I would've outran you both places. I would not say you walked him....actually you holeshotted him. He walked you on the street.
rule of thumb, every 10hp = 1mph
Jesus, how much gear did he have in that thing? The car should go faster than that with 4.10's and a stock limiter.
The difference between me and Sepno is I would've outran you both places. I would not say you walked him....actually you holeshotted him. He walked you on the street.
rule of thumb, every 10hp = 1mph
Jesus, how much gear did he have in that thing? The car should go faster than that with 4.10's and a stock limiter.
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The fastest (trap speed) I've heard of for a bolt-on 6-speed fbody is Demonicbird00's car. He went 117 mph with a good amount of weight reduction and in stellar weather conditions. 115+ with a full weight car is mostly likely going to take great weather/track conditions as well. Possible for sure, but I doubt it would be the norm.