Demon 383

So you find it that hard to believe a full bolt-on LS1 trapping over 112, yet you claimed to have seen a STOCK Mach 1 go 12.7@107? Biased anyone?

You would of cried had you seen my bolt-on Formula WS6 go 114.x full weight at Carlsbad years ago.

And LOL at both cars being within 5hp mod for mod. Even a full bolt-on LS1 will have an easy 25-30whp and 35wtq on a Mach with similar mods.

evangto87

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You sir failed in understanding my post... i was comparing mod for mod on an F body.. mach 1s have never been brought into the comparison. I was comparing driving for the mach reference and how it will have an effect on your et and trap speeds. I just stated the bolt on car i knew of that was strongest would have trapped 114 had it not been on the limiter for the last 50 ft. Bolt on f bodies do not go 117... that is my arguement. I never said bolt on f bodies cant go 114.. I said average bolt on f bodies run 110-112... anything more then that is strong running for what it is and you can qoute me on that. Im not biased about anything. I still hate mustangs... i just happen to own one now. Im born and raised chevy fan... but im not ignorant to say my full weight average bolt on car will do what most cammed f bodies run. People on this forum are WAYYYYY too generous its sickening. Way to put words in my mouth and change everything i said. Good for you sir

Stopsign32v

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Yet the Mustang will still win at the track.

Demon 383

If were talking weight reduction they have gone much faster than that. "Promod1955" went 124.1mph bolt-on only at 3085# race weight. Several other "documented" mph in the 120-122 range. LS1's.

Stopsign32v

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So now a bolt on LS1 will trap 124mph. Hold on, let me find my boots.

evangto87

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we are not talking about 3000lb race cars. We are talking about average run of the mill f bodies. I gaurentee you the race weight of this "117mph" car is around 3550+. Throw in a soft launch... lose more mph. you guys arent grasping the concept of how fast a car that goes 12.3 at 117 really is. If he said i went 11.6 at 117mph in my bolt ls1... i would believe that more. That would tell me his launching the **** out of the car which allows him to have gained a significant amount more mph in the 330ft. That in turn will result in higher trap speeds in both the 8th and 1/4. I asked earlier what he ran in the 8th for trap speed. Launching the car soft to not hurt the factory 10 bolt WILL hurt your trap speeds. So that means his full race weight f body with a 12 bolt and 4.10s launched hard will go north of 117mph??? Think about that people.. im not being biased... im just not being blind to common sense. Look up every single crazy fast trap speed bolt on car... there all geared to **** and as light as ****. Not one of them is full weight with 3.42s...

Demon 383

These are 2700lb tin cars that's why. No surprise.

85mustang351

This is getting ridiculous. so a bolt on ls1 is gonna be faster than a zo6. There is documentation of ******* bigfoot too.

Demon 383

Weight reduction comment wasn't directed toward you.

Demon 383

Here new-to-the-ls1 world guy.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...1-74-bump.html

evangto87

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i hate that list because it makes people think its THAT easy. O if i just do some bolt ons, put some gears in the car, and pull some weight out... ill go 10s at north of 120mph... please. That list spawns forum junkies who have never even taken there cars down the track and just assume thats what they do. These guys also fail to mention the -1000 da they set these records in.. Then you expect crazy results in your average da of 1500. They also fail to mention the vast amount of suspension/drivetrain/chasis work these cars have. i despise that list because of the false hope it gives to people who have never built a race car

HioSSilver

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^^^^ It's not that hard to get a bolt-on auto ls1 in the 11's. A good stall and minor weight reduction and your there.

And get it's *** raped on the street, the fucked up part is.....this is the street racing section. Check out the fastest list and you will see just how much Sepno was lacking. Since you seem to like rubbing in how you beat Sepno at the track.
Could be when you consider the cars on the list are useing the whole 1/4 to their advantage. For comparison the bolt-on c6 Z06 record is 9.97 @ 137-138

Stopsign32v

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I won't lie that had me laughin

Stopsign32v

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No actually I was talking about that seems to be a fact in general. You are the one that is stuck on a full bolt on LS1 lost to a Mach 1 with 5 minor mods.

HioSSilver

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I've never experianced the fact you speak of. And you seem not to want to accept you got your *** wore out on the street.

I would hardly call et streets and 4.56 gears minor mods.

evangto87

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Where did i say 11s... i said 10s

Stopsign32v

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Why combined they cost me $300.

HioSSilver

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Well if it's pretty easy to get one into the 11's then 10's are more reserved for the hard core dragracer.....which I am not.
Cost does'nt really matter. It's the effect the mod has on the vehicle. Do you dd that car? If so I imagine goin down the road @ 3500 rpms in 5th @ 70 mph probally sucks.....same with swaying in a turn with et streets on it or driving in the rain with them.

85mustang351

There are guys running 11's with "bolt on" 302's. Full drag suspension and massive weight reduction would be hardly recognized as a bolt on car. Shaq is 7'3" that doesnt mean every other human is ******* tall.

Stopsign32v

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Oh ok so by your logic the effect the mod has determines if it's major or minor. I guess a $20 Home Dept boost controler for a DSM is a major mod in your eyes. Better yet why don't you just say what you think in your mind..."Stopsign you put on ET Streets and changed the gears to 4.56 gears which made your car much better at the track. By doing this you upset my ability to further trash talk how a N/A 4.6L loses to a LS1. Thus these mods will be deemed MAJOR modifications to your car."

Also at 70mph I'm not even at 3,000rpms. Failure...again