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Old 01-31-2012, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bh353
No not stock stall or suspension..But damn with 620whp in gto you could launch at idle and get into the 10's...and the video that he posted of that mustang running 20lbs of boost and running mid 9's is pathetic
I dont know about gtos so i will stay out of that part, but that mustang went 9.70s from what ohio said, and i dont think you can use running mid 9's and Pathetic is the same sentence unless you are referring to 1/8th mile times then its ok.
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Originally Posted by redctsv
wait is your stall slipping or is the guy with 840whp slipping? Well If he is going 9.7 with 140 whp then you with over 200 whp less trapping 128 seems about right. Going deep into the 10's as you put it as in sub 10.50s and within 8 10ths of guy you mentioned and 200+whp disadvantage seems like a bit of stretch.
WIth just a stall/gears and fixing shift points I have no doubt my car will go mid 10's being 10.5ish. I will run a 3800 stall compared to the one i posted running a 3200 stall.

The corvette guys with me said the 10.5 pass i did looked really clean and say I should claim it as track officals said it was a legit pass. But I didn't get chance to back it ip as I did try but track prep had went to ****. There was still 50 cars trying to make passes. That with the 60ft not working who knows. I would had to cut least a 1.6 which seems hard on stock stall.

Originally Posted by bh353
No not stock stall or suspension..But damn with 620whp in gto you could launch at idle and get into the 10's...and the video that he posted of that mustang running 20lbs of boost and running mid 9's is pathetic
The car I posted still weighs 3800lbs. It ran 9.7@140 with a 3200 stall that is slipping. Stock suspesnion. To me that is pretty good. Stall is being redone and some suspension work being done. Then they will work for low 9's once those two are done.
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Originally Posted by willizm
I'm not trying to get in the middle of this heated argument, but is that with near stock suspension and full weight, stock converter? Trying to compare apples to apples here is all. Just seems that when it comes to finding examples of x car doing y with only having z mods its more of the exception than the norm and often enough there is more than just the mods specified.

Maybe this track outing is catching up to the things that Ohio has been preaching the last few months. Regardless there is always more to a car's capability than just shooting for dyno numbers.
I have completely stock suspension.

And from teh cars I shoudl with blower set ups running mid 10's also had stalls. And most was least 200lbs lighter then me. They are base models vs my loaded model. Kinda as you mentioned apples to apples. 128 trap shows what the car has in it. It is getting every thing perfect from last tarck outing to now. Biggest is shift points. Keep it off limiter and shift at 7400 where it should have not 6900-7100 where it was.
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Originally Posted by redctsv
I dont know about gtos so i will stay out of that part, but that mustang went 9.70s from what ohio said, and i dont think you can use running mid 9's and Pathetic is the same sentence unless you are referring to 1/8th mile times then its ok.
Ok,let me put to you this way...you own a c6z right? with just 10lbs of boost your car would probably be close to 800rwhp..now imagine another 10lb's on top of that..20lb's of boost on a v8 is alot..
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
WIth just a stall/gears and fixing shift points I have no doubt my car will go mid 10's being 10.5ish. I will run a 3800 stall compared to the one i posted running a 3200 stall.

The corvette guys with me said the 10.5 pass i did looked really clean and say I should claim it as track officals said it was a legit pass. But I didn't get chance to back it ip as I did try but track prep had went to ****. There was still 50 cars trying to make passes. That with the 60ft not working who knows. I would had to cut least a 1.6 which seems hard on stock stall.



The car I posted still weighs 3800lbs. It ran 9.7@140 with a 3200 stall that is slipping. Stock suspesnion. To me that is pretty good. Stall is being redone and some suspension work being done. Then they will work for low 9's once those two are done.
I guess. for your trap i would say a 1.4ft with a 4.1 330ft and carrying that momentum the whole way could hit a 10.50. but going low 11.3's then one 10.50 at i think you said 125 seems a bit off. there are such things as timing errors at the track. Ive seen it happen a few times and it has happened to me before. Back like in 04 when i just has a few boltons on my evo my slip said that i ran a 1.2 60ft. There is no way in hell i ran that time.
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Originally Posted by bh353
Ok,let me put to you this way...you own a c6z right? with just 10lbs of boost your car would probably be close to 800rwhp..now imagine another 10lb's on top of that..20lb's of boost on a v8 is alot..
SO Lethals ZR1 that made 720whp and weighs what 3200lbs and ran 10.1@144 is disappionting right?
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Originally Posted by redctsv
I guess. for your trap i would say a 1.4ft with a 4.1 330ft and carrying that momentum the whole way could hit a 10.50. but going low 11.3's then one 10.50 at i think you said 125 seems a bit off. there are such things as timing errors at the track. Ive seen it happen a few times and it has happened to me before. Back like in 04 when i just has a few boltons on my evo my slip said that i ran a 1.2 60ft. There is no way in hell i ran that time.
I agree. And this is why I didn't claim the 10.5. I could have just posted it and that was it. Never said I think it was a fluke. Specially when the trap was 3.5-3.9mph slower then I did the rest the night in either lane.
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Originally Posted by bh353
Ok,let me put to you this way...you own a c6z right? with just 10lbs of boost your car would probably be close to 800rwhp..now imagine another 10lb's on top of that..20lb's of boost on a v8 is alot..
Totally different engine that start out with 100hp more. ALso has 2L more to help carry that power. 20lbs on my engine would be more then the guy is making since his compression is lower. Kinda like the one Boss they put on 18lbs it made 856whp.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
SO Lethals ZR1 that made 720whp and weighs what 3200lbs and ran 10.1@144 is disappionting right?
Is he pumping 20lb's of boost into it?
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Originally Posted by bh353
Is he pumping 20lb's of boost into it?
It made 720whp who cares how much boost it had. I do know it was cammed as well. Not to mention he is over 500lbs lighter.

Are you so stupid that 20lbs of boost is not going to make the same power on a little 5.0 then on a 6.2L or even a 7.0L
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Totally different engine that start out with 100hp more. ALso has 2L more to help carry that power. 20lbs on my engine would be more then the guy is making since his compression is lower. Kinda like the one Boss they put on 18lbs it made 856whp.
Are you serious? your engine would never last 5 minutes at 20lb's of boost with stock compression..lol
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Originally Posted by bh353
Ok,let me put to you this way...you own a c6z right? with just 10lbs of boost your car would probably be close to 800rwhp..now imagine another 10lb's on top of that..20lb's of boost on a v8 is alot..
yeah i know that, but everyone knows the faster you go it takes more power to drop the next 10th in the e.t.
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Originally Posted by bh353
No not stock stall or suspension..But damn with 620whp in gto you could launch at idle and get into the 10's...and the video that he posted of that mustang running 20lbs of boost and running mid 9's is pathetic
This is exactly my point. People get so jaded about what cars are doing by seeing others with less communicated mods doing the same or better. Perfect example is if a bolt on fbody runs anywhere from 12.5 to 13.5 on average then most everyone seems to communicate on these boards that "bolt on fbodies run mid 12's, period. Anything less is pathetic."

Running 9's regardless is a pretty damn impressive feat. I can hope to run 10's, but will I. i dunno, timeslips tell all. I make a hair over 600whp, but I'm full weight, full interior street car dd during the summer with AC and accessories and running on 93 pump. Is it pathetic or unimpressive if I don't at least hit 9's because other fbodies with weight reduction, running on slicks, c16 in a stripped out turbo car can?

My measure of success is not in MPH or ET, but going and running consistent and driving the pig home with ac on and nothing broke. I ain't going to lie though. Hitting mid 10's would be pretty stellar.
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You guys are being a little hard on ohio. most centri blower cars ive seen dyno queen. Are you guys comparing to 600 na? Hell even roots and twin screws dyno queen to an extent and have to make 50 hp more than ls to run with it.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
It made 720whp who cares how much boost it had. I do know it was cammed as well. Not to mention he is over 500lbs lighter.
Well i guess the mighty 5.0 has met it's limitation....not so godly after all
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Originally Posted by bh353
Are you serious? your engine would never last 5 minutes at 20lb's of boost with stock compression..lol


You so totally missed the whole point.
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Originally Posted by bh353
Well i guess the mighty 5.0 has met it's limitation....not so godly after all
How that?

840whp 3800lbs runs 9.7 5.0L

720whp 3200lbs runs 10.1 6.2L

9.7 is faster then 10.1 no matter how you look at it.
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
You guys are being a little hard on ohio. most centri blower cars ive seen dyno queen. Are you guys comparing to 600 na? Hell even roots and twin screws dyno queen to an extent and have to make 50 hp more than ls to run with it.
Every Centri car will be slow on stock stall when compared to a cantri car with a manual.
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
You guys are being a little hard on ohio. most centri blower cars ive seen dyno queen. Are you guys comparing to 600 na? Hell even roots and twin screws dyno queen to an extent and have to make 50 hp more than ls to run with it.
He was the one tooting the 5.0 makes mega power and fast times with minimal mods horn! If you want to dish it(as he has done)you bette be prepared to take it (which he seems to be doing just fine)!

Also ohio the zr1 is a 6.2L and the z06 has the 7.0L
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Originally Posted by redctsv
He was the one tooting the 5.0 makes mega power and fast time with small mods horn! If you want to dish it(as he has done)you bette be prepared to take it (which he seems to be doing just fine)!

Also ohio the zr1 is a 6.2L and the z06 has the 7.0L
You jus jelly bro. Your 7.slow couldn't brake 10's with 50 psi's




















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