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Old 08-14-2012, 09:48 PM
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Hype because I saw 2 of them running consistent 8.4-8.5's @ 87 MPH at our local Irwindale Speedway last Thursday. Granted they were on street tires, trap speed didn't impress me. I should have recorded the runs. **DA is usually 1000~

For comparison:

My buddy's 98 Z with bolt-ons(full exhaust/tune), 3200 stall and Toyo DR ran consistent 7.8-7.9's @ 90~mph at the same track.

My bro's LS1/T56 IROC-Z (CAI, catback and tune) ran 8.1@91 mph before "grenading" the stock 10-bolt.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Hype because I saw 2 of them running consistent 8.4-8.5's @ 87 MPH at our local Irwindale Speedway last Thursday. Granted they were on street tires, trap speed didn't impress me. I should have recorded the runs. **DA is usually 1000~

For comparison:

My buddy's 98 Z with bolt-ons(full exhaust/tune), 3200 stall and Toyo DR ran consistent 7.8-7.9's @ 90~mph at the same track.

My bro's LS1/T56 IROC-Z (CAI, catback and tune) ran 8.1@91 mph before "grenading" the stock 10-bolt.
Surprise, the only thing that matters is what you see... Screw what happens elsewhere in the world. Are you related to Hio?
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Hype because I saw 2 of them running consistent 8.4-8.5's @ 87 MPH at our local Irwindale Speedway last Thursday. Granted they were on street tires, trap speed didn't impress me. I should have recorded the runs. **DA is usually 1000~

For comparison:

My buddy's 98 Z with bolt-ons(full exhaust/tune), 3200 stall and Toyo DR ran consistent 7.8-7.9's @ 90~mph at the same track.

My bro's LS1/T56 IROC-Z (CAI, catback and tune) ran 8.1@91 mph before "grenading" the stock 10-bolt.
Hard to launch a manual on street tires and see what car can really do.
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reading this thread makes me vomit....
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Surprise, the only thing that matters is what you see... Screw what happens elsewhere in the world. Are you related to Hio?
Not related to Hio but since your bringing up relations, how's your mom? Is she keeping that yellow C5 clean for our next outing?


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Hard to launch a manual on street tires and see what car can really do.
I'm guessing 8.0's on tires but the trap is what didn't add up to a car that traps 116+??? I guess I'll just stick to internet Boss 302's, they're a lot faster w/ incompetent drivers.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Not related to Hio but since your bringing up relations, how's your mom? Is she keeping that yellow C5 clean for our next outing?




I'm guessing 8.0's on tires but the trap is what didn't add up to a car that traps 116+??? I guess I'll just stick to internet Boss 302's, they're a lot faster w/ incompetent drivers.
ignorant much... you must love to ignore the video i keep showing you of my friends boss running 11.9 at 115 in 2000+ da. How can you get a car to mph in the 8th if you cant get the car moving?
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Arguing with a 3rd Gen owner will get you nowhere.
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So a few ford guys attempted to answer my question: whats the difference between the BOSS and the regular 5.0, but the answer was not very specific. Whats the HP/TQ rating difference?

They have different gears correct? any other suspension differences? Just trying to figure out how my bolt-on A4 Z28 walked a 2012 5.0 (not a boss). And now people are telling me a Boss will "butt-****" a regular 5.0 yet no1 has specifically said whats different.
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Originally Posted by loudblack97z71
So a few ford guys attempted to answer my question: whats the difference between the BOSS and the regular 5.0, but the answer was not very specific. Whats the HP/TQ rating difference?

They have different gears correct? any other suspension differences? Just trying to figure out how my bolt-on A4 Z28 walked a 2012 5.0 (not a boss). And now people are telling me a Boss will "butt-****" a regular 5.0 yet no1 has specifically said whats different.
Ported heads, bigger cams, higher reving intake, forged bottom end. Its a c5 z06 in comparison to a c5. Its rated at 444hp but makes around 390whp stock. The boss takes a driver to make it fast. If you dont drive it properly, it wont impress you.
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thanks EvanGTO87, whats the regular 5.0 rated at?

The regular 5.0 I raced seemed to shift pretty good, but maybe he wasn't reving high enough.

The only mods i had at the time were: lid, dynomax catback, no spare/jack back seats, free mods, crappy 245 tires on stock 16's. No-where near a full-bolt on car, still had my emissions crap and stock Ls1 intake too. Still walked by him after I finally got traction.
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Originally Posted by loudblack97z71
thanks EvanGTO87, whats the regular 5.0 rated at?

The regular 5.0 I raced seemed to shift pretty good, but maybe he wasn't reving high enough.

The only mods i had at the time were: lid, dynomax catback, no spare/jack back seats, free mods, crappy 245 tires on stock 16's. No-where near a full-bolt on car, still had my emissions crap and stock Ls1 intake too. Still walked by him after I finally got traction.
def beat a driver if you ask me. Good kill anyway. But the regular 5.0 is rated at 412hp. Usually dyno in the 360s
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so whats all this nonsense i keep hearing from other fanbois that gt's dyno 380 at the rear wheels?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
so whats all this nonsense i keep hearing from other fanbois that gt's dyno 380 at the rear wheels?
Some do. They pretty much fall into the same 360-380rwhp spread as the '03/'04 Cobras.
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a nearly full bolt on boss only running 12:40's @ 117 mph? doesn't he know they are faster than that stock?

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Originally Posted by UBoysPlayBall?
A Boss trapping 112 in 1/4 in decent air with a decent driver means there is something wrong.
This same boss put a whoopin on a ZL1... He only pulled 2 cars on a 114mph car with mods.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
This same boss put a whoopin on an ZL1... How he only pulled 2 cars on a 114mph car with mods isn't that impressive.
zl1's are stupid. once they heat soak they only run around 111 mph.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
well you seem to have pre conceived notions before even opening the thread because obviously you missed the part where we changed drivers.
Yes...preconceived notions, based on fact. Not some jack posting up vids of him driving a Boss to lose against his own car. Just my opinion, so don't worry about caring too much.
Originally Posted by big hammer
i thought the boss was going to run away on my car in 3rd-- but they were basically a dead heat. i was pretty excited!

now for all the homos that get pissy the boss had 400 pounds worth of passengers in it and the ws6 had a lone 160 pound driver-- and no spare tire and jack either.

also forgot i have a ported TB as well.
Ohhhhhh, well you didn't say that at first, ptb makes all the difference .
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Just yours is
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Ok so your friend that don't know how to drive your car race you while you drove his boss but you couldn't manage to pull away? You don't know how to drive!
I guess 1+1=2 after all. Someone can't drive that's for sure .




**All I can say is congrats!! You beat a car you had no business beating, even with the weight difference. I guess that sums it up, Boss cars are slower than lid/catback ls1 cars. I knew it!! .

Again, it's pretty obvious what's what...but these are just my opinions, or "pre conceived notions", so I must be mistaken.
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Wow arguments in a 5.0 related thread? I'm shocked. To answer an above question there is little difference between the production boss and the gt. Intake and some other things but yes the difference is crank 444hp while the 13' 5.0 like mine is 420hp crank. Now the real boss, the Laguna seca boss is a different animal. Comes with a race key that unlocks the full potential of the car. Although I doubt you'd see a real Laguna seca on a day to day basis. IMO this production "boss" is nothing special and not worth the extra pricetag. Kind of like the difference in 4th Gen camaros between ss and z28.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
I'm guessing 8.0's on tires but the trap is what didn't add up to a car that traps 116+??? I guess I'll just stick to internet Boss 302's, they're a lot faster w/ incompetent drivers.
I agree. What's funny is there are several Boss owners that frequent this forum yet none of them can provide any drag strip data per their own personal experience, but will be quick to post an internet video of a car they know nothing about.

oh the irony.


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