02 ws6 vs 2013 boss
08-15-2012, 03:12 PM
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okay to start the story off, a guy that works for me recently bought a yellow 2013 boss. very nice car. i've been bugging him for a while to race but he says he can't shift it worth ****.
anyway a friend of mine shows up to buy a trans from me. so we go out on the road and tune my 75 t\a for a while. the guy with the boss seen us so he stopped by. he figured it was time to run our cars. so i fired up the 02.
we try racing from a dig a couple times. both times he just spun a bit then blew 2nd. 1-2 shift is just horrible on that car.
so then we try from a 10 mph roll to eliminate the launch. he blew 2nd again. tried again--- he hit 2nd, and was about a length behind. but then he blew 3rd. okay i thought, this is no good. we weren't learing anything here.
my buddy was riding in the boss and recorded all the shenannigans.
the guy that owns the boss wanted me to drive his car-- i've driven it several times before and went through the gears a lot. 1-2 shift is a little tricky but after that it's alright. i was a little hesitant as nobody there has even driven my car before--- and the guy that owns the boss can't drive for ****. regardess, i threw the keys to my car to my other friend and said "run it through the gears a couple times then we'll line up". I did the same with the boss.
at this point the only guy with a camera was now driving my car so no vid from this point on
we lined up for a dig race. i called out "ready-set-GO!"
he got me by around a length out of the hole. then i made up about a fender with the boss at the top of 1st--- went to nail 2nd at 7250 rpm and BAM! nailed it! RFO! and we were away-- 2nd-3rd-4th--- top of 4th the boss made up about another fender then we let off. ws6 won by approx 3\4 of a car. right on. but that wasn't enough yet.
we line up again. i called it out again-- GO! this time i launched a little better as he only got my by aboot a 3rd of a car. i made up a touch at the top of 1st-- nailed 2nd-3rd-4th-- top of 4th the boss evened it up-- i shifted to 5th around 7300 rpm. the ws6 was at the top of fourth and pulled a foot or so away. i ran in 5th a bit then we shut down. basically dead even or the ws6 by a **** hair. very very close! i'm guessing we shut down somewhere around 120 mph. the guy that owns the boss was riding with me just giggling.
the two cars were an awesome race! haven't had a close one like that in a long time. props to my buddy for just jumping in my car, and from never driving it before to driving like it like a champ!
the two cars--
the '13 boss-- bone stock, around 3500 miles on it and using the red key. boss had a passenger.
my car-- 02 ws6, around 22,000 miles on it. CAI, diablo handheld tuner, ORY, cat back, z06 clutch and 295\50 mickey T DR's on the back.
anyway a friend of mine shows up to buy a trans from me. so we go out on the road and tune my 75 t\a for a while. the guy with the boss seen us so he stopped by. he figured it was time to run our cars. so i fired up the 02.
we try racing from a dig a couple times. both times he just spun a bit then blew 2nd. 1-2 shift is just horrible on that car.
so then we try from a 10 mph roll to eliminate the launch. he blew 2nd again. tried again--- he hit 2nd, and was about a length behind. but then he blew 3rd. okay i thought, this is no good. we weren't learing anything here.
my buddy was riding in the boss and recorded all the shenannigans.
the guy that owns the boss wanted me to drive his car-- i've driven it several times before and went through the gears a lot. 1-2 shift is a little tricky but after that it's alright. i was a little hesitant as nobody there has even driven my car before--- and the guy that owns the boss can't drive for ****. regardess, i threw the keys to my car to my other friend and said "run it through the gears a couple times then we'll line up". I did the same with the boss.
at this point the only guy with a camera was now driving my car so no vid from this point on
we lined up for a dig race. i called out "ready-set-GO!"
he got me by around a length out of the hole. then i made up about a fender with the boss at the top of 1st--- went to nail 2nd at 7250 rpm and BAM! nailed it! RFO! and we were away-- 2nd-3rd-4th--- top of 4th the boss made up about another fender then we let off. ws6 won by approx 3\4 of a car. right on. but that wasn't enough yet.
we line up again. i called it out again-- GO! this time i launched a little better as he only got my by aboot a 3rd of a car. i made up a touch at the top of 1st-- nailed 2nd-3rd-4th-- top of 4th the boss evened it up-- i shifted to 5th around 7300 rpm. the ws6 was at the top of fourth and pulled a foot or so away. i ran in 5th a bit then we shut down. basically dead even or the ws6 by a **** hair. very very close! i'm guessing we shut down somewhere around 120 mph. the guy that owns the boss was riding with me just giggling.
the two cars were an awesome race! haven't had a close one like that in a long time. props to my buddy for just jumping in my car, and from never driving it before to driving like it like a champ!
the two cars--
the '13 boss-- bone stock, around 3500 miles on it and using the red key. boss had a passenger.
my car-- 02 ws6, around 22,000 miles on it. CAI, diablo handheld tuner, ORY, cat back, z06 clutch and 295\50 mickey T DR's on the back.
08-15-2012, 03:22 PM
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Wow arguments in a 5.0 related thread? I'm shocked. To answer an above question there is little difference between the production boss and the gt. Intake and some other things but yes the difference is crank 444hp while the 13' 5.0 like mine is 420hp crank. Now the real boss, the Laguna seca boss is a different animal. Comes with a race key that unlocks the full potential of the car. Although I doubt you'd see a real Laguna seca on a day to day basis. IMO this production "boss" is nothing special and not worth the extra pricetag. Kind of like the difference in 4th Gen camaros between ss and z28.
08-15-2012, 03:25 PM
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In all honesty, No! A lid/catback LS1 should be a 107-109mph trap car in ideal conditions. I just don't see one hanging with a BOSS but of course anything can happen.
08-15-2012, 04:41 PM
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Yes...preconceived notions, based on fact. Not some jack posting up vids of him driving a Boss to lose against his own car. Just my opinion, so don't worry about caring too much.
Again, it's pretty obvious what's what...but these are just my opinions, or "pre conceived notions", so I must be mistaken.
Again, it's pretty obvious what's what...but these are just my opinions, or "pre conceived notions", so I must be mistaken.
08-15-2012, 04:59 PM
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after the race in the vid (we tried several times)
then I drove the boss.
the camera man then drove my car. that's why he have no vids of when we were basically dead even.
08-15-2012, 05:47 PM
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108 mph car vs 117mph car. Wheres the hype?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76srI...hannel&list=UL
My buddies bone stock boss in 2000+ da. Since when does a lid/catback f body run those times?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76srI...hannel&list=UL
My buddies bone stock boss in 2000+ da. Since when does a lid/catback f body run those times?
BTW I can post youtube videos too and claim there my best buddy... proves nothing...
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08-15-2012, 05:50 PM
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This isn't your car, you have zero proof that its stock. It obviously has DR's and sounds like it has exhaust mods. Makes me wonder what else is actually done....also zero proof of the DA.
BTW I can post youtube videos too and claim there my best buddy... proves nothing...
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BTW I can post youtube videos too and claim there my best buddy... proves nothing...
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08-15-2012, 06:30 PM
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This isn't your car, you have zero proof that its stock. It obviously has DR's and sounds like it has exhaust mods. Makes me wonder what else is actually done....also zero proof of the DA.
BTW I can post youtube videos too and claim there my best buddy... proves nothing...
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BTW I can post youtube videos too and claim there my best buddy... proves nothing...
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The car was a few weeks old when it was run.
ONLY mod was DRs and he had a much better launch later in the day, but missed a shift on that pass.
Car is showroom stock besides the tires he borrowed when he went to the track.
08-15-2012, 08:16 PM
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Evan and i both know this guy very well, it's not a random youtube vid.
The car was a few weeks old when it was run.
ONLY mod was DRs and he had a much better launch later in the day, but missed a shift on that pass.
Car is showroom stock besides the tires he borrowed when he went to the track.
The car was a few weeks old when it was run.
ONLY mod was DRs and he had a much better launch later in the day, but missed a shift on that pass.
Car is showroom stock besides the tires he borrowed when he went to the track.
08-15-2012, 08:35 PM
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08-15-2012, 08:39 PM
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Either way the whole point seems moot imo. I just don't see the relevance of the vid, nor the claims. We're not stooping to lid/catback ls cars pulling on new Boss' s just to get wins here imo. We have enough to brag about without leg humping, and vids like this are a waste of time. That means ****, again imo.
08-15-2012, 08:44 PM
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2000ft DA though?
True.
Either way the whole point seems moot imo. I just don't see the relevance of the vid, nor the claims. We're not stooping to lid/catback ls cars pulling on new Boss' s just to get wins here imo. We have enough to brag about without leg humping, and vids like this are a waste of time. That means ****, again imo.
08-15-2012, 10:20 PM
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Wow arguments in a 5.0 related thread? I'm shocked. To answer an above question there is little difference between the production boss and the gt. Intake and some other things but yes the difference is crank 444hp while the 13' 5.0 like mine is 420hp crank. Now the real boss, the Laguna seca boss is a different animal. Comes with a race key that unlocks the full potential of the car. Although I doubt you'd see a real Laguna seca on a day to day basis. IMO this production "boss" is nothing special and not worth the extra pricetag. Kind of like the difference in 4th Gen camaros between ss and z28.
08-15-2012, 10:25 PM
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only on ls1tech.. ugh... I have personally raced that yellow boss i posted a video up of. I raced him with a catback/air intake... and i beat him fairly well. People stop trying to convince me that my friend isnt my friend... for the love of god.
Heres another vid of that boss racing a GT that went 12.2 at 116. And if you dont believe me.... check out the user name "evanjrobinson"....hmmmmm..
Heres another vid of that boss racing a GT that went 12.2 at 116. And if you dont believe me.... check out the user name "evanjrobinson"....hmmmmm..