Hyundai vs Acura
12-26-2012, 02:59 PM
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12-26-2012, 03:02 PM
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a tb may help too. Yeah CAI is a good piece, we have a LSR cai on our 5th gen. The thing is friggin worthless. 0 gain over the stock stuff. Thinking of picking up a CAI inc one or a vararam.
12-26-2012, 03:03 PM
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I agree, at that point you are only as good as the weakest link in the chain as you exhausted all other points of weakness in the setup. In 2ss's setup he isn't at that point yet and you can probably agree there are at least 10 other things that he'd see better return on investment over than swapping heads as they are pricy to say the least
The only better choice IMO is nitrous.
12-26-2012, 03:07 PM
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The plans so far are 10-12psi, driveshaft, lpe twin fuel pump and 150 shot. We are going to increase line pressure in trans to hope it will last a few passes and hopefully run a low-mid 9 before I blow something up.
With just 1 good 9 second pass I will retire and stop spending outrageous amounts of money on a car. With the driveshaft, dry shot and twin pumps I am now at almost $30,000 in upgrades to the car. The car cost me 44k and it's insured for 42k...... Not sure how I'm suppose to feel.
12-26-2012, 03:14 PM
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It raises the ceiling and that is all fine and good, but it's not going to make him the power to take advantage of that yet. He's got quite a bit of other things he can do before he gets to that point of taking advantage of that raised ceiling. I'd rather live with a slight bottle neck than a timebomb and forge the bottom end and worry about heads later.
12-26-2012, 03:15 PM
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Another quick question.
All things aside....
Is 500rwhp N/A faster than 500rwhp boosted (turbo/supercharge w/e)? EXLUCDING NITROUS.
When matching n/a and boosted numbers.... will n/a always be quicker?
All things aside....
Is 500rwhp N/A faster than 500rwhp boosted (turbo/supercharge w/e)? EXLUCDING NITROUS.
When matching n/a and boosted numbers.... will n/a always be quicker?
12-26-2012, 03:19 PM
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It all depends on the power band as a whole if all else is equal(gearing, weight, limiting spin, etc). Peak numbers are peak numbers but if you have some laggy turbo then the NA car should get a couple lengths if the other car isn't break boosting to take advantage of leaving in boost.
12-26-2012, 03:21 PM
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It all depends on the power band as a whole if all else is equal(gearing, weight, limiting spin, etc). Peak numbers are peak numbers but if you have some laggy turbo then the NA car should get a couple lengths if the other car isn't break boosting to take advantage of leaving in boost.
Superchargers slip and their power bands are all over the place because of belt slip.
Turbos always have some type of lag (brake boosting isn't allowed in my scenario).
See I'm talking to some guys in a facebook group and trying to explain that personally I think n/a power is more efficient and better than boosted power in 98% of cases.
12-26-2012, 03:22 PM
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NA power is far more reliable. You have to deal with slip, heat soak and other factors with an FI car that don't have as big a role to play in the NA world. Also NA cars tend to have nice flat torque curves and with so many variances in a FI setup it comes down to the power under the curve. You got some peaky s2k witha big turbo on it making the same peak power as a H/C/I z06 and see what happens.
12-26-2012, 03:39 PM
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Exactly. I have ran blower cars that make the same power at peak as me, but they didn't have as wide of a powerband. Where they were shifting at 6000 I'm shifting at 7000 and I average more power for a longer period of time. I'll take 500 na over 500 boost or power adder any day. I can run the car 100 times and it will be consistent power.
12-26-2012, 03:39 PM
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300whp 2.4L Honda motor or 300whp supercharged 3.8?
Which one is gonna have a flatter curve? lol
While we're throwing out these hypotheticals. I have one that no one has ever answered to my satisfaction... I asked it a long time ago so the cars are kind of dated... but
Which is faster.
An STI that runs 13.0 @ 103 or
A Supra that runs 13.2 @ 112
This is a great one for those roll race vs drag race people.
Which one is gonna have a flatter curve? lol
While we're throwing out these hypotheticals. I have one that no one has ever answered to my satisfaction... I asked it a long time ago so the cars are kind of dated... but
Which is faster.
An STI that runs 13.0 @ 103 or
A Supra that runs 13.2 @ 112
This is a great one for those roll race vs drag race people.
12-26-2012, 03:45 PM
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12-26-2012, 03:51 PM
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12-26-2012, 03:57 PM
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I would throw in my .02 if ssarme posted what he already has complete. All I see is a bunch of sarcasm in his signature.
but i'd recommend suspension/drivetrain/unsprung weight before adding more power. Those are far weaker points than the factory ls3 heads.
12-26-2012, 03:59 PM
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300whp 2.4L Honda motor or 300whp supercharged 3.8?
Which one is gonna have a flatter curve? lol
While we're throwing out these hypotheticals. I have one that no one has ever answered to my satisfaction... I asked it a long time ago so the cars are kind of dated... but
Which is faster.
An STI that runs 13.0 @ 103 or
A Supra that runs 13.2 @ 112
This is a great one for those roll race vs drag race people.
Which one is gonna have a flatter curve? lol
While we're throwing out these hypotheticals. I have one that no one has ever answered to my satisfaction... I asked it a long time ago so the cars are kind of dated... but
Which is faster.
An STI that runs 13.0 @ 103 or
A Supra that runs 13.2 @ 112
This is a great one for those roll race vs drag race people.
1 is faster from a dig and 1 is faster from a roll. whats your point?
12-26-2012, 04:01 PM
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I'd have to agree with this although i know the shorter gearing on an sti is one of the main reasons why it doesn't perform that well in the 1/4 so chances are that on a roll it would do better, but by how much i wouldn't know without having both cars or knowing more about the setup than just et and trap
12-26-2012, 04:06 PM
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fine... stop making recommendations on a platform you clearly dont have an educated knowledge about.
I would throw in my .02 if ssarme posted what he already has complete. All I see is a bunch of sarcasm in his signature.
but i'd recommend suspension/drivetrain/unsprung weight before adding more power. Those are far weaker points than the factory ls3 heads.
I would throw in my .02 if ssarme posted what he already has complete. All I see is a bunch of sarcasm in his signature.
but i'd recommend suspension/drivetrain/unsprung weight before adding more power. Those are far weaker points than the factory ls3 heads.