Originally Posted by ohioborn80

Op of video.said 3250 with driver.

Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28

I'm going to attribute that to the fact that Ohio's big head is exponentially more dense than the average 5.0 owner. He's working with Automach so that he could the same custom sunroof installed.

Originally Posted by evangto87

I dont know what any of them would make. Dude chill out! Ok let me break this down for you again. My friend built an SS camaro following Pat Gs 500whp guidelines (which is CONSTANTLY brought up in hp arguements proving ls1s can make 500whp). His car was the fastest H/C f body i have ever seen in person and it was full vehicle weight. His car trapped 125 in the dead heat of summer... he only went up once with it and thats what it ran. Never learned how to drive it better, or run it in low DA. Still managed a 125mph trap speed. It was fast...period. His car dynoed 455whp on the same exact dyno jet/shop every single car i ever reference for hp has. That same full bolt on cammed ls2 GTO made 425whp on that exact dyno. My boss made 418whp on that dyno with stock cats/shorties. I will be redynoing the car in a few weeks. The only changes ive made that will effect whp is dropping 20lbs off the driveshaft and adding kooks longtubes and offroad x pipe (i expect a 25whp gain from the headers/xpipe). My guess for my next dyno visit is between 440-450whp. A friend of mine already made 447whp on that dyno with high flow cats, stock resonators, and flowmasters. Theres no question i have a better flowing exhaust...whether it makes a difference...who knows. Now if i make within 10whp of that 455whp SS which again was just as fast and a carbon copy of Pat Gs car (the only difference was it wasnt the same dyno), and then i pick up 50whp from H/C package of my own..... isnt it safe to say the H/C 5.0 makes more power then the H/C ls1? Hell with bolt ons, my car will actually make more power then 95 percent of the H/C ls1s to ever get on that dyno. Im not trying to be a dick or gloat. Im just telling you real world comparisons. Not fighting youtube videos with youtube videos. I have never ever seen a H/C ls1 or ls2 in person make 500whp. Maybe on other dynos in the world.. but not the ones i have experience with.

In the long and short of it.... this is just dyno numbers and they dont matter anyway because dyno numbers dont make cars fast.

And not to sound like a dick again... but if 500whp is so doable... why do neither of your H/C setups make that?

Originally Posted by evangto87

Go back and read my original post... i said they CAN make 500whp... its just not by any means easy and takes a vast knowledge of how to do it. THAT car makes 500whp... why? Because it traps over 130mph at 3250 race weight. I know all about that car. The Pat G 500whp ls1... doesnt make 500whp... unless on a happy dyno.


"It definitely makes 509 RWHP. It wasn't easy." - Owner of the car

Originally Posted by evangto87

Reread... and that car makes the claimed power. Its as fast as you..

Originally Posted by Johnnystock

Why didnt you ever did better than 118mph then?(Dont wanna sound like dick..but thats a weak bolton Coyote territory BTW, according to ohio) It has to be that your car isnt as strong as you think.

Why my car are not making 500rwhp? First, it should be making 600rwhp right now with the nitrous, more than enough on the street. Second, Because I bought it already modded in the first place, along time ago. Then I learned a thing or 2 about LSx over the years. Then I didnt put the money and time to do it, as I said in another post. Again, as I said, I never gave any excuses about anything about my car. Neither the time or the dyno numbers. Old setup(LS1 with 22x cam/stock ported heads) made 404rwhp on a very stingy dyno(more than yours I'm sure as you are). Sooo my LS1 was faster than your Boss according to your logic.

So you are trying to compare, 3 different cars(Pat G original T/A, your buddy's SS and your Boss), on different days/ weather/ track/ drag setup/ gear/ etc!! Absolutly not a good comparison by any possible means.

What you are doing is taking away everything from Pat G right now. Nothing else. This is the worst person to attack IMO on this forum and he backed his numbers numerous times.

Another excuse now, the weight. When will it ever end before you admit any of those cars are legit?????

Originally Posted by evangto87

Who said anything about the weight making that car not legit. WTF man you just want to argue im convinced that is your only goal. On that note Im not continuing this talk with you. You and Ohio can keep at it. I have better things to do. Like sleep. Good night.

Originally Posted by evangto87

Who said anything about the weight making that car not legit. WTF man you just want to argue im convinced that is your only goal. On that note Im not continuing this talk with you. You and Ohio can keep at it. I have better things to do. Like sleep. Good night.

Originally Posted by clonedws6

Evan will never stop posting how much better the 5.0s are so you might as well not even attempt.

Originally Posted by Detoxx03

Man your friend is a idiot. His first mistake was putting that garbage as maggie on it. That thing doesn't make power for **** and then it produces too much heat like all pd blowers do. If he would have thrown a Procharger (still won't cure the cars weight issue) on it he wouldn't have had that issue. I'm making 676 on the stock bottom end with just upgraded injectors and a bap and my car runs perfectly fine. I can throw a smaller pulley on it if I want to but i'm not trying to push it too much cause I plan on building it and going for 1000rwhp. Plus at 3200 pounds not much can beat it around here.



All of the dumbasses on Camaro5

Originally Posted by evangto87

Go back and read my original post... i said they CAN make 500whp... its just not by any means easy and takes a vast knowledge of how to do it. THAT car makes 500whp... why? Because it traps over 130mph at 3250 race weight. I know all about that car. The Pat G 500whp ls1... doesnt make 500whp... unless on a happy dyno.


"It definitely makes 509 RWHP. It wasn't easy." - Owner of the car

Originally Posted by ohioborn80

I have powered everything, leather, all the inside fancy lights. Shaker system. ONLY weight reduction is bigs/little's, nofrot sway bar and driveshaft , then added weight of SC which is about 100lbs. Before I get I it was 3640 on the scales with all above. I'm 220lbs.


I will doing some stuff to drop least 100lb off the nose come summer. Gears, longtubes, and some new tuning with better tuner. Engine is perfect t but need some working of te shdts even before gears.might drop down a pulley also.

Originally Posted by Cammed 02

Now I've heard it all. Who are you again?

People can say the most ignorant **** on a car forum I tell ya.

Originally Posted by Cammed 02

Now I've heard it all. Who are you again?

People can say the most ignorant **** on a car forum I tell ya.

Originally Posted by Johnnystock

Those guys are running this section since a long time. Its scary to see how far they are willing to go to make their Ford look better. I think this is sig material!!!