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Old 05-06-2013, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
I'm going to buy a mustang now in NJ just to beat Tony.
******* drug dealer... lol
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Originally Posted by big hammer
hard to say if that would be enough. evans car has a freaky-*** ECU in it.
Rather then troll... you should ask questions. For example... the ECU has the ability to add up to 5 degrees of timing over commanded. Not exactly a good thing in my eyes. I command 24... I was hitting an holding 29 above 7k at 150 degree coolant temps. On the dyno, i wasnt hitting anymore then 24.
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and Tony. Not sure what that was about, but i was only looking for a friendly race. And i figured you were local enough to maybe make the trip some time. If we met in CT, we wouldnt be the only ones to race. Thats where SRZ and all those guys are too. Im in RI and make the trip often.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
and Tony. Not sure what that was about, but i was only looking for a friendly race. And i figured you were local enough to maybe make the trip some time. If we met in CT, we wouldnt be the only ones to race. Thats where SRZ and all those guys are too. Im in RI and make the trip often.
He don't like mustangs and he has a mustang killer bro lol
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So a stroker with a ultra light rotating assembly and supporting mods beat a stock challenger with maybe exhaust?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Rather then troll... you should ask questions. For example... the ECU has the ability to add up to 5 degrees of timing over commanded. Not exactly a good thing in my eyes. I command 24... I was hitting an holding 29 above 7k at 150 degree coolant temps. On the dyno, i wasnt hitting anymore then 24.
nah i'd rather troll.
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Still a good kill, but how can you say for sure he thought he was gonna "puff his chest"??
Lol I do what he did just to get cars attention (most I know to be faster)
I just like to see them go or want to run.
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Originally Posted by TonyGXP
found out the challenger is just cai/exhaust. so it was to be expected (for me) point of the kill story was the fact that the "stock" SRT thought he was just going to puff his chest against my (what he must have assumed) was just another appearance modded G8.


so to answer your question more pointedly, Yes.




Evan, I've been trying to figure out your Boss for a couple months, having read through some of your kill threads during that time. I'm a bit confused because i saw how you were taking cars out I assumed would be evenly matched or even quicker than you.. So i am skeptical as to the extent of the (divulged) mods on your mustang (hence the threats of further modification to my car lol)...

All in good fun, if you get out here some time in late october or early november, we can have some fun.. Tune Time rents the track out numerous times throughout the year, it's always a good time.
No prob. But as far as mods to my car. Theres is nothing hidden or lied about. The only HP related mods on this car are an air intake and full exhaust. The rest is just suspension/drivetrain...in which cut a lot of weight in the process.
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Originally Posted by SRTboy
Still a good kill, but how can you say for sure he thought he was gonna "puff his chest"??
Lol I do what he did just to get cars attention (most I know to be faster)
I just like to see them go or want to run.
because through the tint (sun coming through the windshield) you could see the arrogant look he gave the car.. rightfully so, i'm sure unless it's a vette or new 5.0, he probably has little problem beating up on cars from a roll with that much hp (for stock). that's how... and the fact that he slowed up for me and then hit it after i was next to him no acknowledgement, just "in it to win it" lol

The same way i would be next to a car i have handily blasted in the past "bug-off peasant" lol


Thanks Evan, for reminding me to start tackling those things i put off at the end of the season last year... at the shop all day today "tinkering"

got the stock TB ported today, looking at ram air kits now, not sure if we're going to fab one up or use off the shelf RamJet.. want to switch to a 4" CAI.. limited in which off the shelf i can use (if any?) stock MAF still screened and that K&N?? God what was i thinking?
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
TonyGXP > RedHotG8
No **** Sherlock! Tony's car has a bigger motor and more mods, of course it's faster.
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Originally Posted by RedHotG8
Good job showing that guy that his SRT8 really isn't that fast. I recently had a Hemi pickup and a GMC diesel pickup both think they could take the G8 and I smoked them both. The funny thing was they both tried to catch me after I dusted them and they just couldn't keep up lol.
Really, a SRT8 isn't that fast...huh? Then a G8 must be a turd...A stock 6.1 owns a stock G8. A 392 is just straight rape.

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Nope a stock G8 keeps up with a stock 6.1 and the 392 has a slight advantage.
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^i agree
I gave a 6.1 the same run i gave my buddies G8
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a 392 is a **** ton faster then a G8 stock for stock. Doesnt mean however i like the 392 better... but it is A LOT faster. 120hp advantage...
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Good kill OP. Like mentioned before, dude probably wasn't expecting you to walk on by like that.
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Originally Posted by RedHotG8
Nope a stock G8 keeps up with a stock 6.1 and the 392 has a slight advantage.
You are dilusional. A stock g8 gt is a mid to high 13 second car.
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Originally Posted by Slapattack
You are dilusional. A stock g8 gt is a mid to high 13 second car.
Maybe he meant g8 GXPs?
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Originally Posted by Slapattack
You are dilusional. A stock g8 gt is a mid to high 13 second car.

Charger SRT8 vs Pontiac G8 GT
The conversation went something like this: "Hey, Steve, come by with the Bee. Let's see how it stacks up against this 2008 Pontiac G8 GT."

Motorhead Steve lives up the street. His dad was a Dodge dealer back in the 1960s. The guy knows option codes from the muscle car era like they're his kids' names and has a tattoo on his left forearm that reads "Mopar is Mom." More important, he just bought himself a screaming yellow 2007 Dodge Charger SRT8 Super Bee. We knew he wouldn't hesitate.

"Now?" he asked.

"Now."

"Be there in five."

Ten minutes later we were lined up.

Declining Numbers at an Even Rate
Honestly, we didn't think we had a chance. The 2008 Pontiac G8 GT is powered by a 6.0-liter V8 rated at 361 horsepower at 5,300 rpm and 385 pound-feet of torque at 4,400 rpm. Steve's Mopar, a virtual twin to the one we tested a few months ago, is packing a 6.1-liter V8 pumping 425 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque.

We clicked off the Pontiac's traction control with the clearly marked button ahead of its shifter and brake-torqued the big V8 to 2,000 rpm. To our right we could hear Steve do the same. On the count of three we went for it.

Both cars left clean, with just a turn or two of tire slip. Then Steve pulled a fender on us. No surprise considering his Bee's torque advantage. But that's all he had. Past 60 mph the Mopar was still just a fender ahead. The Pontiac's six-speed automatic clicked off clean, crisp gearchanges just before its 6,000-rpm rev limiter, and kept pace with that Charger well past 100 mph.

We raced again. And again. And again. It was like a scene out of Woodward Avenue circa 1969, only we were in sedans, with sunroofs and heated seats, on a deserted, burned-out industrial section of downtown Los Angeles. Every race was a carbon copy of the first.

We lost. But not by much.

Steve wasn't happy. His Mopar had more power, louder paint and many more stickers than the G8 GT. It also costs more than the Pontiac, which carries a base price of $29,995 and tops out at $32,745 with our red car's sunroof, leather and big wheel and tire option. No, Steve wasn't happy at all.

Let's Do the Math
Doug Houlihan, GM's global vehicle chief engineer based in Melbourne, Australia, told us his car should run from zero to 60 mph in 5.3 seconds and cover the quarter-mile in 13.8 seconds at 101 mph.

Seemed about right. The Super Bee we tested ran to 60 mph in 5.3 seconds and the quarter-mile in 13.6 seconds at 106 mph. We hadn't tested this red 2008 Pontiac G8 GT yet, but Steve's Bee had us by a fender at 60 mph and 105 mph.

The next morning at our test track, the G8 GT ran as expected, perfectly splitting Houlihan's numbers and the Bee's previous performance. The Pontiac launches to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds and covers the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 104 mph.

"How's that?" you ask. "The Mopar packs so much more muscle under its hood. Why doesn't it smoke the Pontiac?"

Honestly, we're not really sure. At first we figured the Pontiac was just lighter. It sure feels that way from behind the wheel. But it isn't. At 4,106 pounds, the 2008 Pontiac G8 GT weighs only 56 pounds fewer than that Bee we tested. Transmission? Maybe. The Pontiac's six-speed automatic is an absolute performance advantage over the Bee's sluggish five-speed. We also have to consider the Mopar's heavy 20-inch rims and rubber, which don't do it any favors on the dragstrip. The Pontiac's optional 19-inch wheels and summer tires are certainly lighter, which makes it easier for the car to accelerate. These things matter, but don't fully explain how the G8 keeps up. Or why the Bee isn't quicker.

Plus the Pontiac has more gear in it. The rear-wheel-drive G8 GT manages this miracle with a 2.92:1 rear axle ratio. At 80 mph in top gear, its tach reads a lazy 2,000 rpm. Put some shorter gears in this sedan and Steve would've been looking up the G8's four exhaust pipes.

Think down the road, and the G8 GT should run with the Challenger SRT8, which shares its drivetrain and platform with the Super Bee SRT8. And the Camaro SS, which is based on the G8's underpinnings, should have no problem keeping up with the Challenger.

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