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Old 06-26-2013, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Keep reading the brochures.... GT500 has trapped 129 Stock... has also went 11.4 at 126 in the hands of magazine drivers. And in the stock for stock street races... the GT500 is on top.
You mad, bro? Z06 has also went 129mph stock. And it would definitely pull on one of those bricks after the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
yeah... 129 "stock".

yet in the real world hasn't showed to out perform the z06.
How has it not? Its trapped higher, and on street has pulled the Z06. Et is a little hard when dealing with a lot more hp and tq. Members here even said the 13gt500 was faster then there stock Z06 on the street.

Granted the 07-09 was complete ****. 10-12 got a lot better but the 13 was a home run.
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This will be one of those never ending Ford vs Chevy threads.

Gotta love it

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Originally Posted by Raoul-Duke
You can't delete this thread man.
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Originally Posted by Mookie
Nothing is worse than what Chevy put on 2006-2009 Z06s, a f'in Good Year runcrap tire is by far worst tire in modern era lol
LOL its close IMO from a roll im sure the extra ~150hp could beat the Z06 but a brand new C6Z with Z07 package vs 13 Gt500 from a dig im sure the Z would win because the gt500 is gonna spin more then the Z would due to tires. How ever its crazy what a good tire can do to the cars that are being debated, it can either make or break them...
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
How has it not? Its trapped higher, and on street has pulled the Z06. Et is a little hard when dealing with a lot more hp and tq. Members here even said the 13gt500 was faster then there stock Z06 on the street.

Granted the 07-09 was complete ****. 10-12 got a lot better but the 13 was a home run.
you and that pappa guy are probably the only two mustang guys on here that i would respect considering it seems like you two actually say if your mustangs are turds or not. but as far as them from a roll race what would you say the 13 GT500 should start at? like a 50 roll? maybe even a 60 roll?
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From the limited races we have seen the GT500 13 has the slight edge over a stock C6Z from a roll like half a car. But I think there was a race between the 2 over on svtp where the Z06 won iirc was a week or so ago. It's basically just a driver's race who ever cam shift better alone with roll speed advantage will win.

But what's sad is the 13 GT500 needs more power than any other year mustang it seems to run with a Z06
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Originally Posted by Mookie
Dude, Z06 have gone 10.981 @ 128.90 ....if you wanna play games(Stock engine, stock Good Year runcraps which are the worst tires in universe lol)

You can see some other results and runs with DRs

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...fast-list.html
Hate to burst your bubble there, but a stock 13- 500 will take a stock Z06.. both driven well.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Keep reading the brochures.... GT500 has trapped 129 Stock... has also went 11.4 at 126 in the hands of magazine drivers. And in the stock for stock street races... the GT500 is on top.
The C6 Z06 has went a best of 10.9@128 in 100% stock trim. That was in 2006. No '13 GT500 has went 10s PERIOD. BTW, which stock GT500 trapped 129, source?

Both cars are about even in the quarter AND on the street from what I have seen. Drivers race guys, deal with it.

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
And go by what is happening on the streets. Few here ran stock vs stock and admitted the GT500 was a little faster. We don't race magazine articles cause if that the case they have taken the GT500 to 11.4@126. And several magazines have had the Z06 trap 123. Plenty guys have now went `128-129 stock an ran low 11's and 10.5-10.8 with just tires.
'Plenty' guys have went 128-129 stock? Yeah right, enough with the BS. Most guys are trapping in the mid 120's, in the real world at least. And again, the C6 Z has been 10.9's bone-stock and 10.7@130 with tire-only. Until a Shelby has eclipsed that number you cannot say its the faster car.
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
you and that pappa guy are probably the only two mustang guys on here that i would respect considering it seems like you two actually say if your mustangs are turds or not. but as far as them from a roll race what would you say the 13 GT500 should start at? like a 50 roll? maybe even a 60 roll?
I am not sure of the roll speed spots for the 3.31 equipped 13s... i do know on my 12 with the svtpp 3.73 gear, 40mph in 2nd, and about 70 in 3rd are my strong points.
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
From the limited races we have seen the GT500 13 has the slight edge over a stock C6Z from a roll like half a car. But I think there was a race between the 2 over on svtp where the Z06 won iirc was a week or so ago. It's basically just a driver's race who ever cam shift better alone with roll speed advantage will win.

But what's sad is the 13 GT500 needs more power than any other year mustang it seems to run with a Z06
This. These ford nutswingers just can't admit that a 7 year old vette is every bit a match for Ford's fastest and most powerful production Mustang EVER! These guys also fail to mention the GT500 comes with a 150RWHP advantage from the gate too.
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
From the limited races we have seen the GT500 13 has the slight edge over a stock C6Z from a roll like half a car. But I think there was a race between the 2 over on svtp where the Z06 won iirc was a week or so ago. It's basically just a driver's race who ever cam shift better alone with roll speed advantage will win.

But what's sad is the 13 GT500 needs more power than any other year mustang it seems to run with a Z06
I think that is the common misconception.. the GT500 was not built to target Z06s.. its competition is the Camaro.. and the 13' 500 targeted the ZL1, which it can pull the front bumper off of. The whole deal with the Z vs. GT500 is that the Z is a good car to shoot for in the race battles.. it has a different purpose...is lightweight and moves out because of the power to weight. The way I look at it is Z owners should take it as a compliment that we like to race them. We sure as hell would be wasting gas on the 5th gens .
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
The C6 Z06 has went a best of 10.9@128 in 100% stock trim. That was in 2006. No '13 GT500 has went 10s PERIOD. BTW, which stock GT500 trapped 129, source?

Both cars are about even in the quarter AND on the street from what I have seen. Drivers race guys, deal with it.



'Plenty' guys have went 128-129 stock? Yeah right, enough with the BS. Most guys are trapping in the mid 120's, in the real world at least. And again, the C6 Z has been 10.9's bone-stock and 10.7@130 with tire-only. Until a Shelby has eclipsed that number you cannot say its the faster car.
Got some news for you.. my pulley/tune 2012 can trap mid 120s. Average z06 traps are in the lower to mid 120s. The stock 10.9run you mention was a hero run and not an average exMple ofnhow the Z cars run at the track.

Average driver to average driver in both car, the Z will be on the losing end.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
This. These ford nutswingers just can't admit that a 7 year old vette is every bit a match for Ford's fastest and most powerful production Mustang EVER! These guys also fail to mention the GT500 comes with a 150RWHP advantage from the gate too.
The GT500 was not designed for the vettes.. it is aimed at the fbodies.. and since they cant even compete, we like picking on their big brother. ....and just a note.... dont call someone a nutswinger without recognizing you are one yourself.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp


Got some news for you.. my pulley/tune 2012 can trap mid 120s. Average z06 traps are in the lower to mid 120s. The stock 10.9run you mention was a hero run and not an average exMple ofnhow the Z cars run at the track.

Average driver to average driver in both car, the Z will be on the losing end.
Were not talking about the irrelevant (Pre '13) GT500's here, but the '13...you know, the one that actually has some *****. I love how you always find a way to bring your car into the discussion tho. Lol'z
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Whether or not they directly made it to compete with the Z06 is irrelevant because that's what everyone compares it to outside of magazines. Ford made a car to compete with other 60k cars not just the ZL1 imo. Not everyone goes oh wow I have 60k to spend I can only buy a new car, almost everyone is open to used cars as well and the Z06 happens to fall in that price range/performance used so it's almost always in consideration when someone is looking at the GT500 and vise versa.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
The GT500 was not designed for the vettes.. it is aimed at the fbodies.. and since they cant even compete, we like picking on their big brother. ....and just a note.... dont call someone a nutswinger without recognizing you are one yourself.
I've owned cars from just about every brand kid. I only nutswing on whatever car I feel like buying.
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poor mustangs, need a blower to keep up.
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Stock C6 Z06s run 10.9 at 129. Stock 2013 GT500s run 11.6 at 124.

Stock ZL1s run 11.7 at 120+. Stock Boss 302s run 12.7 at 113

Stock 1LEs run 12.5 at 114. Stock GTs run 13.0 at 110.

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A 13 GT500 and a C6Z are a driver's race. Can we move on with it now?


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