GT500 vs ZL1
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Stock vs Stock Z06 isn't "walking" anything, around a corner or in a straight line. Even the most honest C6 Z owners will tell you that. For the record I've owned a DSOM '06 & AOM '09 Z06.
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pretty good IMO. The 13 Gt500 is quicker. But the reality is it only out performs the ZL in 1 performance category. Sure this is the place for that. They are performance cars........NOT drag only cars.
The Z28 is gonna be nasty for sure. Probably still not a drag queen. But I think we will be looking at world class performance in general.
That's pretty damn sad. BRB, counting the "race in the twisties" kills posted on here.
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Stock vs Stock Z06 isn't "walking" anything, around a corner or in a straight line. Even the most honest C6 Z owners will tell you that. For the record I've owned a DSOM '06 & AOM '09 Z06.
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I agree with you. It just humors me to see people who have never shown an interest in handling characteristics before try to gloat on how the ZL1 is ONLY worse in ONE category and better in categories they seemingly never gave a **** about. That's grasping.
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^^^Only gives a **** about handling and other aspects when it's the only thing the Camaro is better at than the GT500. Your emphasis was always "racing on the street" to the point that you said this is the street racing section not the 1/4 mile strip section, or something to that effect. Now you can't suck on the Camaro's nuts with straight line speed, so you dash to other categories of performance.
That's pretty damn sad. BRB, counting the "race in the twisties" kills posted on here.
That's pretty damn sad. BRB, counting the "race in the twisties" kills posted on here.
I like a good handling car.
It humors me how many of you ford guys come outta the wood work to try and grasp your manhood.
I'm not gonna buy either so I really don't care. But I assure you the power issue of the ZL1 is much easier to cure than the handling issue of the GT500.
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Funny I have a hard time finding any posts of yours regarding the importance of a car's ability to be a great autocross vehicle. It's always been about roll racing on the street and how much you stomp your feet if a car so much as launches at too high of an RPM at the start of a race.
If the ZL1 was faster in a straight line than the GT500 you would not give a quarter of a **** about the handling characteristics. Congrats on working for the road race team? I have a goldfish.
The ZL1 is a good match for the Boss, though.
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Why don't go run a 1/4.....turn around and go back the other 2/3's a mile or so then do the 1/4 again. Report back on how long it takes to get groceries.
I like a good handling car.
I worked for a road race team for 17yrs.........long before srk was around.
It humors me how many of you ford guys come outta the wood work to try and grasp your manhood.
I'm not gonna buy either so I really don't care. But I assure you the power issue of the ZL1 is much easier to cure than the handling issue of the GT500.
I like a good handling car.
I worked for a road race team for 17yrs.........long before srk was around.
It humors me how many of you ford guys come outta the wood work to try and grasp your manhood.
I'm not gonna buy either so I really don't care. But I assure you the power issue of the ZL1 is much easier to cure than the handling issue of the GT500.
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Why don't go run a 1/4.....turn around and go back the other 2/3's a mile or so then do the 1/4 again. Report back on how long it takes to get groceries.
I like a good handling car.
I worked for a road race team for 17yrs.........long before srk was around.
It humors me how many of you ford guys come outta the wood work to try and grasp your manhood.
I'm not gonna buy either so I really don't care. But I assure you the power issue of the ZL1 is much easier to cure than the handling issue of the GT500.
I like a good handling car.
I worked for a road race team for 17yrs.........long before srk was around.
It humors me how many of you ford guys come outta the wood work to try and grasp your manhood.
I'm not gonna buy either so I really don't care. But I assure you the power issue of the ZL1 is much easier to cure than the handling issue of the GT500.
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Funny I have a hard time finding any posts of yours regarding the importance of a car's ability to be a great autocross vehicle. It's always been about roll racing on the street and how much you stomp your feet if a car so much as launches at too high of an RPM at the start of a race.
If the ZL1 was faster in a straight line than the GT500 you would not give a quarter of a **** about the handling characteristics. Congrats on working for the road race team? I have a goldfish.
The ZL1 is a good match for the Boss, though.
And yes if your trying to compare 1/4 numbers and one guy launch's off a 2 step on a slick how is that comparable to someone leaving at 2000rpm on a street tire. The comparison don't work unless your trying to scew the results.
For real.......I'm just to dumb to leave them alone.....
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Just because the ZL1 handles better than the GT500 doesn't mean the GT500 has handling problems. It and the Boss are probably the best-handling live axle cars to ever come from the factory. And IRS is coming with the next generation. The ZL1 is stronger than the current Ford offerings in the handling category because, ceteris paribus, a well-designed IRS will perform better 10/10 times. The fact that the GT500 is as close as it is is a testament to how much work was put into upgrading an 8 year old chassis.