400 whp 5.0 Mustang vs few LS1 camaro's
09-11-2013, 06:00 PM
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I will tell ya exactly what they run they run slower then a stock pre 13 gt500 derp. When both are able to put all of the power to the ground. The gt500 comes out on top. Why doesn't your car run faster then 11s? After being hacked up too 29xxlbs, motor swaped, faceplated, gears, all the boltons and who knows what else with tons of seat time to top it off?
09-11-2013, 07:23 PM
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Wow... I'll just say this; Hio, it's been pretty well-documented what a ZL1 will run with sticky tires, and we know that a '10-'11 GT500 will run BOTTOM 11s with a tire as well. And trap 120mph+. Now the ZL1 is the better car of the two, but given traction a pre-'13 GT500 (not an '07-'09) will run faster. On stock tires it isn't really a comparison, and that is Ford's fault for not putting a wider tire/softer compound on the stock wheels.
09-11-2013, 07:39 PM
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I will tell ya exactly what they run they run slower then a stock pre 13 gt500 derp. When both are able to put all of the power to the ground. The gt500 comes out on top. Why doesn't your car run faster then 11s? After being hacked up too 29xxlbs, motor swaped, faceplated, gears, all the boltons and who knows what else with tons of seat time to top it off?
We all know why my car don't go into the tens....the 10bolt. Just think if I had a rear in it......**** me....wouldn't you ford guys cry then, It will happen......and it will happen on the 10 bolt just so I can twist that knife.
Why doesn't your car go faster than 12's?
Oh and you can tell by the pics of my fox that I hack nothing.
Wow... I'll just say this; Hio, it's been pretty well-documented what a ZL1 will run with sticky tires, and we know that a '10-'11 GT500 will run BOTTOM 11s with a tire as well. And trap 120mph+. Now the ZL1 is the better car of the two, but given traction a pre-'13 GT500 (not an '07-'09) will run faster. On stock tires it isn't really a comparison, and that is Ford's fault for not putting a wider tire/softer compound on the stock wheels.
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09-11-2013, 07:48 PM
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LOL....excuse much?
We all know why my car don't go into the tens....the 10bolt. Just think if I had a rear in it......**** me....wouldn't you ford guys cry then, It will happen......and it will happen on the 10 bolt just so I can twist that knife.
Why doesn't your car go faster than 12's?
Yea....well how come autostupid can't get his modded one out of the 12's? The fastest Gt500 I've seen went high 11's. And it wasn't stock.
We all know why my car don't go into the tens....the 10bolt. Just think if I had a rear in it......**** me....wouldn't you ford guys cry then, It will happen......and it will happen on the 10 bolt just so I can twist that knife.
Why doesn't your car go faster than 12's?
Yea....well how come autostupid can't get his modded one out of the 12's? The fastest Gt500 I've seen went high 11's. And it wasn't stock.
09-11-2013, 08:03 PM
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LOL....excuse much?
We all know why my car don't go into the tens....the 10bolt. Just think if I had a rear in it......**** me....wouldn't you ford guys cry then, It will happen......and it will happen on the 10 bolt just so I can twist that knife.
Why doesn't your car go faster than 12's?
Oh and you can tell by the pics of my fox that I hack nothing.
Yea....well how come autostupid can't get his modded one out of the 12's? The fastest Gt500 I've seen went high 11's. And it wasn't stock.
We all know why my car don't go into the tens....the 10bolt. Just think if I had a rear in it......**** me....wouldn't you ford guys cry then, It will happen......and it will happen on the 10 bolt just so I can twist that knife.
Why doesn't your car go faster than 12's?
Oh and you can tell by the pics of my fox that I hack nothing.
Yea....well how come autostupid can't get his modded one out of the 12's? The fastest Gt500 I've seen went high 11's. And it wasn't stock.
09-11-2013, 09:23 PM
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LOL....excuse much?
I didn't give any excuses derp I simple asked you the same question.
We all know why my car don't go into the tens....the 10bolt. Just think if I had a rear in it......**** me....wouldn't you ford guys cry then, It will happen......and it will happen on the 10 bolt just so I can twist that knife.
Nobody is going to cry over a car that should be running in the 10s when it actually does it.
Why doesn't your car go faster than 12's?
Hasn't been back to the track.
Oh and you can tell by the pics of my fox that I hack nothing.
Ok and we know the fox was not originally yours. It also does not weight 25xxlbs.
Yea....well how come autostupid can't get his modded one out of the 12's? The fastest Gt500 I've seen went high 11's. And it wasn't stock.
I didn't give any excuses derp I simple asked you the same question.
We all know why my car don't go into the tens....the 10bolt. Just think if I had a rear in it......**** me....wouldn't you ford guys cry then, It will happen......and it will happen on the 10 bolt just so I can twist that knife.
Nobody is going to cry over a car that should be running in the 10s when it actually does it.
Why doesn't your car go faster than 12's?
Hasn't been back to the track.
Oh and you can tell by the pics of my fox that I hack nothing.
Ok and we know the fox was not originally yours. It also does not weight 25xxlbs.
Yea....well how come autostupid can't get his modded one out of the 12's? The fastest Gt500 I've seen went high 11's. And it wasn't stock.
Yup imagine if was 2900lbs
09-11-2013, 09:38 PM
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Dude I wasn't taking a stab at you at all, I was saying the only way I see what he says (without clicking view post) is when he's quoted. I don't care who you quote lol.
09-11-2013, 10:51 PM
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If you can't figure out how you need a new hobby.
It's a fact ford has more problems and recalls then GM. Just sac up and move on.
IDK.....does it matter ford has recalled millions more than gm?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/automotive/f...alls-in-h-1lio
http://www.buzzfeed.com/automotive/f...alls-in-h-1lio
The reality is, items not deemed an actual safety hazard may never be recalled. With that knowledge you two geniuses live without, there is NO direct correlation(that means ties) between recalls and the number of actual problems. In truth, since GM produces the most vehicles, they have had more problems. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to add that up.
The list doesn't seem to be up to date by any means, as I didn't see any mention of the heated wiper issues(which can cause fires) from 2010, or the recall about vehicles which could roll away while parked or the one about the power window module(and door master switch) which could catch fire.. Those last 2 were from this yr.
Didn't see any mention of the faulty guage system in too many trucks or the melted wiring harness for the blower motor in countless more. Point is, there are millions of problems not recalled. The CRUZE has already had 8 recalls, but most of us would never know.
Sure it could be coincidence that I just happen to know 3 people who got junk ones...and obviously a lot are fine but I find it humorous that the Ford boys are quick to jump on the "you must have done something wrong" bandwagon despite how many kick the bucket.
A lot of 4l60e are "fine" too, doesn't make them a good transmission for performance cars in stock form nor does it mean every one that breaks was an owner's fault.
For the second part, I would like you to find one ******* instance where I told someone who was having a problem with a GM that they "weren't" like you claim. I will be the first to admit just how ******* shitty a long list of GM stuff is, most notably when LT1 fanboys try to downplay what junk optisparks are along with everything from the T56 tailhousing and back on an Fbody.
I also won't defend Hio for a single second and agree with you there. 
I could overlook the fanboy behavior but according to him every cammed ls1 on tech that weighs over 3000lbs "runs bolt on times".
So I def see how he rubs people wrong.
I could overlook the fanboy behavior but according to him every cammed ls1 on tech that weighs over 3000lbs "runs bolt on times".
So I def see how he rubs people wrong.
I forgot they even OFFERED the van anymore... I'm sure that oversight means I don't know anything about Ford. When's the last time you saw a new van on dealer lots? I just bought a new vehicle and didn't see A SINGLE new Ford van on any of 5 Ford lots I visited. One has the 2nd highest volume in sales in the southeast US, which means they've got some vehicles in stock(none are new full size vans). That said, we were talking about several things, but specifically about Mustangs and pickup trucks... Not vans. Once the 2015's hit, that van is likely history, with those old engines Ford only uses in them.
09-11-2013, 11:28 PM
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Having been a trucker myself(when I was still super intelligent), I'm gonna say, it's not THAT much work, so go for it...
Roush ran mid 8's on the 1/4 with an N/A Mustang... Seems respectable from here.
Nice... Take a line from whomever...
Talk to your idiot friends, like HIO on that... He's the one who constantly throws it out there, pinhead. PAY ATTENTION!
It's an opinion, nothing more, till it can be proven and it cannot be proven. See why below:
Are you both using info from 2010 and earlier and from unvetted sources?
The reality is, items not deemed an actual safety hazard may never be recalled. With that knowledge you two geniuses live without, there is NO direct correlation(that means ties) between recalls and the number of actual problems. In truth, since GM produces the most vehicles, they have had more problems. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to add that up.
The list doesn't seem to be up to date by any means, as I didn't see any mention of the heated wiper issues(which can cause fires) from 2010, or the recall about vehicles which could roll away while parked or the one about the power window module(and door master switch) which could catch fire.. Those last 2 were from this yr.
Didn't see any mention of the faulty guage system in too many trucks or the melted wiring harness for the blower motor in countless more. Point is, there are millions of problems not recalled. The CRUZE has already had 8 recalls, but most of us would never know.
According to Ford Motor Company and the NHTSA, you've read wrong. Both have stated the investigation is over and Ford made ZERO changes to the transmission. They changed fluids, replaced clutch bolts and/or torque specs and moved on without issue. Investigation closed, problem ended. I just looked it up yesterday. Feel free to do the same. This ended in November of 2011.
It's much more likely you know 3 people who didn't know how to drive with that 6spd than had faulty transmissions.
EXACTLY... So why is it you blame Ford for the EXACT SAME situation???
I'm not sure, but I don't think I was addressing you there. Thinking it was the big hammer... head.
We're not alone, obviously. I wish he'd make an attempt to grow up, but that's just me.
I forgot they even OFFERED the van anymore... I'm sure that oversight means I don't know anything about Ford. When's the last time you saw a new van on dealer lots? I just bought a new vehicle and didn't see A SINGLE new Ford van on any of 5 Ford lots I visited. One has the 2nd highest volume in sales in the southeast US, which means they've got some vehicles in stock(none are new full size vans). That said, we were talking about several things, but specifically about Mustangs and pickup trucks... Not vans. Once the 2015's hit, that van is likely history, with those old engines Ford only uses in them.
Roush ran mid 8's on the 1/4 with an N/A Mustang... Seems respectable from here.
Nice... Take a line from whomever...
Talk to your idiot friends, like HIO on that... He's the one who constantly throws it out there, pinhead. PAY ATTENTION!
It's an opinion, nothing more, till it can be proven and it cannot be proven. See why below:
Are you both using info from 2010 and earlier and from unvetted sources?
The reality is, items not deemed an actual safety hazard may never be recalled. With that knowledge you two geniuses live without, there is NO direct correlation(that means ties) between recalls and the number of actual problems. In truth, since GM produces the most vehicles, they have had more problems. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to add that up.
The list doesn't seem to be up to date by any means, as I didn't see any mention of the heated wiper issues(which can cause fires) from 2010, or the recall about vehicles which could roll away while parked or the one about the power window module(and door master switch) which could catch fire.. Those last 2 were from this yr.
Didn't see any mention of the faulty guage system in too many trucks or the melted wiring harness for the blower motor in countless more. Point is, there are millions of problems not recalled. The CRUZE has already had 8 recalls, but most of us would never know.
According to Ford Motor Company and the NHTSA, you've read wrong. Both have stated the investigation is over and Ford made ZERO changes to the transmission. They changed fluids, replaced clutch bolts and/or torque specs and moved on without issue. Investigation closed, problem ended. I just looked it up yesterday. Feel free to do the same. This ended in November of 2011.
It's much more likely you know 3 people who didn't know how to drive with that 6spd than had faulty transmissions.
EXACTLY... So why is it you blame Ford for the EXACT SAME situation???
I'm not sure, but I don't think I was addressing you there. Thinking it was the big hammer... head.
We're not alone, obviously. I wish he'd make an attempt to grow up, but that's just me.
I forgot they even OFFERED the van anymore... I'm sure that oversight means I don't know anything about Ford. When's the last time you saw a new van on dealer lots? I just bought a new vehicle and didn't see A SINGLE new Ford van on any of 5 Ford lots I visited. One has the 2nd highest volume in sales in the southeast US, which means they've got some vehicles in stock(none are new full size vans). That said, we were talking about several things, but specifically about Mustangs and pickup trucks... Not vans. Once the 2015's hit, that van is likely history, with those old engines Ford only uses in them.
09-12-2013, 05:50 AM
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Oh hey look what I stumbled across..
"Ford recalls 465,000 vehicles of different models worldwide for leaky fuel tanks"
Hmm, what's the date on that? June 3rd 2013 you don't say. Yea cause that's definitely not a "safety hazard", putting in shitty plastic fuel tanks. Didnt they pull this crap back in the 90s?
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2013...uel-tanks.html
"Ford recalls 465,000 vehicles of different models worldwide for leaky fuel tanks"
Hmm, what's the date on that? June 3rd 2013 you don't say. Yea cause that's definitely not a "safety hazard", putting in shitty plastic fuel tanks. Didnt they pull this crap back in the 90s?
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2013...uel-tanks.html
09-12-2013, 07:29 AM
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Bottom line of all of your arguing is that, People will by what brand they want and do what they want. That's life. Yes ford in MY opinion sucks, but I have also had some well built Fords put lengths on my car and my friends cars.
Everything comes down to the person who owns the car, you can dump how ever much money in your car you want and it will do what you want or it wont. Parts and weight are the main focus point as everyone who has ever drag raced or any kind of racing knows. Personally I love the LS style F bodies, there sleek and look aggressive but than again the new 5.0s with a good tune and build can be right with a good tune and built LS.
My car isn't a LS platform yet, but I have bolt on and weight reduce and so does my friend in his fox body. 9 times out of ten I out run him, he does put up a fight though.
Everything comes down to the person who owns the car, you can dump how ever much money in your car you want and it will do what you want or it wont. Parts and weight are the main focus point as everyone who has ever drag raced or any kind of racing knows. Personally I love the LS style F bodies, there sleek and look aggressive but than again the new 5.0s with a good tune and build can be right with a good tune and built LS.
My car isn't a LS platform yet, but I have bolt on and weight reduce and so does my friend in his fox body. 9 times out of ten I out run him, he does put up a fight though.
09-12-2013, 08:15 AM
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I was using Hio's logic, but by your response I don't think it's logical.
I've said in the past and I'll say it again, the SRK has some of the best street racing videos on the net. Even though I'm a Ford nut swinger, I do like the LS series of engines...just not in a Ford.