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Old 12-18-2013, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Camper
I own both and my 5th gen has the worst visibility than any car ive ever been in
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Here you go, HiO. Suck a dick
I've never been in a GT500 just the newer 5.0 which I think is identical. I'm not very tall but maybe that works to my advantage in this situation. Take my wife for instance(she's 4'10").....she can't see out of my 4th gen. She's had no idea where I was taking her with the stock seats in the car. But I don't find much difference between the 2. When the rear seat headrests are up rear vision goes to the 5thgen by a landslide.
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So that 305 Fif gen.....
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
When the rear seat headrests are up rear vision goes to the 5thgen by a landslide.
It's fun to watch you claw when an objective 3rd party who owns both vehicles comes in, confirms what I said, and makes you look like an ***

Edit: Reread your post and LOL'd at your wife not knowing where you were taking her with stock seats

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Originally Posted by snake95
Here you go, HiO. Suck a dick
That is mean and a bit harsh, but I lol'd.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It don't have much powa.....lol.....really. By todays standard it just don't. I'm ok with that. At times that may work to it's advantage oddly enough.

I'm just saying the chassis of the ZL is vastly superior. That butt hurts some for some reason.


the cts-v's do seem to go better. But at any rate the blower is to small on them too. The 2.3 is to small on the ZR. From some tests/results I've seen it boost tapers on it even after porting.
This entire bullshit argument and pointless hijack could've been avoided if you weren't so ridiculously stubborn. You can be a fan of one brand and have a preference/loyalty without being blind. I don't care who argues the point, as we'll never see the comparo, but in ANY instrumented performance test, someone would be a hopeless retard to put their money on a ZL1 over a GT. Just facts, and facts that YOU personally outlined. You failed this one, it's ok bud, happens to everyone. But the post of mine is totally worthless, as you're still arguing a well documented fact of fifth gen design...unbelievable.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
the cts-v's do seem to go better. But at any rate the blower is to small on them too. The 2.3 is to small on the ZR. From some tests/results I've seen it boost tapers on it even after porting.
The ZR1 has made over 800whp and been mid 9's with that blower. Its not too small.
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Originally Posted by UBoysPlayBall?
The ZR1 has made over 800whp and been mid 9's with that blower. Its not too small.
Werd. Could it be bigger? Absolutely. But too small? Nah, it does mighty well for it's intended purpose.
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Originally Posted by UBoysPlayBall?
The ZR1 has made over 800whp and been mid 9's with that blower. Its not too small.
Real questions is.......take that blower off and see what it does
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Sorry to hijack but I just noticed something. HioSSilver, your sig says you trapped 131MPH. Are you saying you trapped that with 417/395 and you weigh 3789 lbs...with a 6-speed?
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Subtract ~800lbs from that, I think 3789 is his build number or something.
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Originally Posted by 01MagredC5
Sorry to hijack but I just noticed something. HioSSilver, your sig says you trapped 131MPH. Are you saying you trapped that with 417/395 and you weigh 3789 lbs...with a 6-speed?
You're about 2000 pounds to heavy
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Subtract ~800lbs from that, I think 3789 is his build number or something.
Ahh ok...seemed a bit heavy. But they still weigh 3500 stock. Are you saying he did 500lbs weight reduction? Even at 3000lbs...I have issues with that power/trap speed.

Yeah I know...this has probably been asked 1000 times.
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Originally Posted by 01MagredC5
Ahh ok...seemed a bit heavy. But they still weigh 3500 stock. Are you saying he did 500lbs weight reduction? Even at 3000lbs...I have issues with that power/trap speed.

Yeah I know...this has probably been asked 1000 times.
It's very extensive weight reduction, though he did it in ways most people don't. Drilling holes in suspension pieces, no airbags, etc. And his is a hard-top, so it's probably closer to 3,300lbs stock.
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Ahh...well I hope he posts some details. That trap seems high...
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I hope he PMs you instead
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Ha. Well, I am not trying to bash anyone or anything like that. Just want to hear details.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It don't have much powa.....lol.....really. By todays standard it just don't. I'm ok with that. At times that may work to it's advantage oddly enough.

I'm just saying the chassis of the ZL is vastly superior. That butt hurts some for some reason.

The ZL chassis is superior in a road course way, yes.. not straight line. IRS>SRA for twisties, and SRA>IRS for straight line stuff.

The new S550 chassis Mustangs have IRS though, and it will be interesting to see how the GT350 performs. Word is it will put some current cars to shame. Maybe even that Z28.
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Originally Posted by snake95
It's fun to watch you claw when an objective 3rd party who owns both vehicles comes in, confirms what I said, and makes you look like an ***

Edit: Reread your post and LOL'd at your wife not knowing where you were taking her with stock seats :lol:
Yea.....she's tiny

I could car less what 3rd party says what. I go by my own eyes. and the pic that was posted. But if your gonna base what sporty car you buy about how you see out the rear window.......then you should probably buy a minivan or a Kia.
Originally Posted by Gt4urass
This entire bullshit argument and pointless hijack could've been avoided if you weren't so ridiculously stubborn. You can be a fan of one brand and have a preference/loyalty without being blind. I don't care who argues the point, as we'll never see the comparo, but in ANY instrumented performance test, someone would be a hopeless retard to put their money on a ZL1 over a GT. Just facts, and facts that YOU personally outlined. You failed this one, it's ok bud, happens to everyone. But the post of mine is totally worthless, as you're still arguing a well documented fact of fifth gen design...unbelievable.
I posted facts......if it butt hurts ya then so be it. But it looks like they would be a good run.
Originally Posted by UBoysPlayBall?
The ZR1 has made over 800whp and been mid 9's with that blower. Its not too small.
It's to small.
Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Werd. Could it be bigger? Absolutely. But too small? Nah, it does mighty well for it's intended purpose.
It would be great on a pick up truck.
Originally Posted by Lawhead
Real questions is.......take that blower off and see what it does
LOL.......well we know yours would back up into the 14's w/o it.
Originally Posted by 01MagredC5
Sorry to hijack but I just noticed something. HioSSilver, your sig says you trapped 131MPH. Are you saying you trapped that with 417/395 and you weigh 3789 lbs...with a 6-speed?
****'s a bad ****

of course a m6....**** a slush box.
Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Subtract ~800lbs from that, I think 3789 is his build number or something.
3789= build #
Originally Posted by 01MagredC5
Ahh ok...seemed a bit heavy. But they still weigh 3500 stock. Are you saying he did 500lbs weight reduction? Even at 3000lbs...I have issues with that power/trap speed.

Yeah I know...this has probably been asked 1000 times.
10,000 times actually.

Raceweight was about 3240~
Originally Posted by Irunelevens
It's very extensive weight reduction, though he did it in ways most people don't. Drilling holes in suspension pieces, no airbags, etc. And his is a hard-top, so it's probably closer to 3,300lbs stock.
Car weighed 3430 with 1/3 tank of gas stock.
Originally Posted by 01MagredC5
Ahh...well I hope he posts some details. That trap seems high...
Originally Posted by 01MagredC5
Ha. Well, I am not trying to bash anyone or anything like that. Just want to hear details.
You can pm me if you like.
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
The ZL chassis is superior in a road course way, yes.. not straight line. IRS>SRA for twisties, and SRA>IRS for straight line stuff.

The new S550 chassis Mustangs have IRS though, and it will be interesting to see how the GT350 performs. Word is it will put some current cars to shame. Maybe even that Z28.
I would actually hope the new Mustang could hang with the Z28. Now you're looking at a camaro chassis that has about 10yrs of age. I'm sure there has been advancements in that time.

I'll take irs anytime. Have you seen the way a vette leaves? Kinda hard to argue with this

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...1-22-60-a.html
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
It's very extensive weight reduction, though he did it in ways most people don't. Drilling holes in suspension pieces, no airbags, etc. And his is a hard-top, so it's probably closer to 3,300lbs stock.
so.. you're saying its a hacked up racecar?
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Ignores a question with jumping back to my car

In typical Hio fashion, so that 4.8 Fif Gen....


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