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Old 10-30-2013, 10:21 PM
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Good runs, the C5Z will always have respect and be players, and the new 5.0s are just plain sick for a $35k car.

If anybody knows of anybody interesting in giving my car a run in the MD area hit me up! I don't mind losing just want to see some other quick cars.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Driven right.....decent track prep and decent air. Why wouldn't they? How much should they really very under the same circumstances? Just say it was a really strong one......say a really weak one would have 20hp less (which would be huge). The really weak one should do 12.0 @ 116 under the same circumstances.
At the track, from what I've seen... They usually do about 115-117mph with exhaust. Not counting glory runs since that isn't the norm.

I'm looking forward to racing Brian's c5z. I think it'll be a really good run, but I'm thinking hell slowly pull me past 110'ish.
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Originally Posted by MN_V
Good runs, the C5Z will always have respect and be players, and the new 5.0s are just plain sick for a $35k car.

If anybody knows of anybody interesting in giving my car a run in the MD area hit me up! I don't mind losing just want to see some other quick cars.
Make the trip up to CT? It's about a 2.5 hour ride for me. But a lot of different variety of cars once there's a meet setup.
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Well with varying track conditions and drivers I can see that.
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NED is always slower then what you see online. Thats a fact. Still havent seen a stock C6Z go faster then 122-123 at NED either. Not once. Brian posted his slip up of him going 119 with 402whp. Now yea he didnt have the best launch. But still, thats a good bit more power then a stock one.

Also. From what i read the axles are more china junk. But wheel hop will break anything. I know exactly when i bent the axle. My third pass out i lower the shocks. Had horrible wheel hop and just let out and coasted. Upon driving down the return lane, i heard my rear drivers side brake squeeking. I had a hunch it was a bent axle. Its not extremely bent. You cant see it in the wheel spinning. But its out a few thousandths just enough for it to squeek the pads. Either way, i have a set of mosers on the way. Also raising my lower control arms up an inch. Thats a big part of this wheel hop problem. I think my next time out, ill have some awesome results in the 60 ft. The only thing left that could hurt me is my roush springs. But they still are a lower spring rate then the eibach series springs and many guys cutting a **** ton of 1.5 and 1.6 60s. So im not too worried there.

The ring gear bending and slowly taking out my pinion bearings i believe was showing up on the dyno. The last 2 times i got on the dyno, i was down 3-4whp each time. All after 6500rpm. Figured it was weather... but it consistantly made less power. Wasnt up and down.

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Originally Posted by evangto87
NED is always slower then what you see online. Thats a fact. Still havent seen a stock C6Z go faster then 122-123 at NED either. Not once. Brian posted his slip up of him going 119 with 402whp. Now yea he didnt have the best launch. But still, thats a good bit more power then a stock one. Also. From what i read the axles are more china junk. But wheel hop will break anything. I know exactly when i bent the axle. My third pass out i lower the shocks. Had horrible wheel hop and just let out and coasted. Upon driving down the return lane, i heard my rear drivers side brake squeeking. I had a hunch it was a bent axle. Its not extremely bent. You cant see it in the wheel spinning. But its out a few thousandths just enough for it to squeek the pads. Either way, i have a set of mosers on the way. Also raising my lower control arms up an inch. Thats a big part of this wheel hop problem. I think my next time out, ill have some awesome results in the 60 ft. The only thing left that could hurt me is my roush springs. But they still are a lower spring rate then the eibach series springs and many guys cutting a **** ton of 1.5 and 1.6 60s. So im not too worried there. The ring gear bending and slowly taking out my pinion bearings i believe was showing up on the dyno. The last 2 times i got on the dyno, i was down 3-4whp each time. All after 6500rpm. Figured it was weather... but it consistantly made less power. Wasnt up and down.

We will see how much the change in weather helps my car in the up coming weeks. Running if tomorrow and Sunday (90 is high on Friday, 76 high on Sunday gotta love FL!). Then bringing it up North to Darlington then Fayetteville for these cold weather glory passes everyone speaks of
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Originally Posted by evangto87
NED is always slower then what you see online. Thats a fact. Still havent seen a stock C6Z go faster then 122-123 at NED either. Not once. Brian posted his slip up of him going 119 with 402whp. Now yea he didnt have the best launch. But still, thats a good bit more power then a stock one.

Also. From what i read the axles are more china junk. But wheel hop will break anything. I know exactly when i bent the axle. My third pass out i lower the shocks. Had horrible wheel hop and just let out and coasted. Upon driving down the return lane, i heard my rear drivers side brake squeeking. I had a hunch it was a bent axle. Its not extremely bent. You cant see it in the wheel spinning. But its out a few thousandths just enough for it to squeek the pads. Either way, i have a set of mosers on the way. Also raising my lower control arms up an inch. Thats a big part of this wheel hop problem. I think my next time out, ill have some awesome results in the 60 ft. The only thing left that could hurt me is my roush springs. But they still are a lower spring rate then the eibach series springs and many guys cutting a **** ton of 1.5 and 1.6 60s. So im not too worried there.

The ring gear bending and slowly taking out my pinion bearings i believe was showing up on the dyno. The last 2 times i got on the dyno, i was down 3-4whp each time. All after 6500rpm. Figured it was weather... but it consistantly made less power. Wasnt up and down.
I have to agree with Evan. The average stock 2011+ 5.0 mustang traps about 108mph. Stock C6Z about 123 - 119mph, stock c5z 112 - 115mph, etc

This is just what I have seen from the people running at NED.
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112 MPH for a stock Z is terrible at most places. Seen them go faster in Oklahoma in crap air as well as OSW when Mr Law ran his tank..

NED worked for this head/cam car pretty well. Must have had good air...



https://ls1tech.com/forums/10-second...l#post17790233
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Originally Posted by evangto87
NED is always slower then what you see online. Thats a fact. Still havent seen a stock C6Z go faster then 122-123 at NED either. Not once. Brian posted his slip up of him going 119 with 402whp. Now yea he didnt have the best launch. But still, thats a good bit more power then a stock one.

Also. From what i read the axles are more china junk. But wheel hop will break anything. I know exactly when i bent the axle. My third pass out i lower the shocks. Had horrible wheel hop and just let out and coasted. Upon driving down the return lane, i heard my rear drivers side brake squeeking. I had a hunch it was a bent axle. Its not extremely bent. You cant see it in the wheel spinning. But its out a few thousandths just enough for it to squeek the pads. Either way, i have a set of mosers on the way. Also raising my lower control arms up an inch. Thats a big part of this wheel hop problem. I think my next time out, ill have some awesome results in the 60 ft. The only thing left that could hurt me is my roush springs. But they still are a lower spring rate then the eibach series springs and many guys cutting a **** ton of 1.5 and 1.6 60s. So im not too worried there.

The ring gear bending and slowly taking out my pinion bearings i believe was showing up on the dyno. The last 2 times i got on the dyno, i was down 3-4whp each time. All after 6500rpm. Figured it was weather... but it consistantly made less power. Wasnt up and down.
Same way buddy in his TT boss bent his. And buddy knew he bent his in his gt500.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
112 MPH for a stock Z is terrible at most places. Seen them go faster in Oklahoma in crap air as well as OSW when Mr Law ran his tank..

NED worked for this head/cam car pretty well. Must have had good air...



https://ls1tech.com/forums/10-second...l#post17790233
**** 108 is horrible for stock 5.0. I've seen them trap 110-114. Average being right around 112.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
112 MPH for a stock Z is terrible at most places. Seen them go faster in Oklahoma in crap air as well as OSW when Mr Law ran his tank.. NED worked for this head/cam car pretty well. Must have had good air... https://ls1tech.com/forums/10-second...l#post17790233

No way mike FL in the 90 degree weather is what you should compare a cold day in NE.....
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
112 MPH for a stock Z is terrible at most places. Seen them go faster in Oklahoma in crap air as well as OSW when Mr Law ran his tank..

NED worked for this head/cam car pretty well. Must have had good air...



https://ls1tech.com/forums/10-second...l#post17790233
yeah, I don't know if they are all just terrible drivers or what. But honestly, that is what I have seen as the 'norm'. NED isn't a terrible track by any means. Track prep is lousy on street nights but its right at sea level and does get good air.

Another example:

My friends Evo 8 with Evo9 turbo at 28psi, cams, full bolt ons on 93 pump gas trapped a best of 110mph with 360whp.
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Is the timing equipment certified / tested?
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Is the timing equipment certified / tested?
I have no idea to be honest.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Is the timing equipment certified / tested?
Don't sound like it..

SAR had a day after guy hit timing lights. Everyone was trapping 2mph higher then normal.
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I know Cordova is NHRA sanctioned and has some larger events (ADRL/World Series) ... I believe they get checked a couple times a year. I'll talk to Scott and get more info, I'm not sure if they do it per event or how that works.
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Originally Posted by TitanTransAm
Lol snake's race car would lose to stock honda odyssey minivans.
LOL, Kinda funny when a 17 yr old takes his moms caravan out with no seats and out runs most of the cars at the tues night drags, I seem him do it over a dozen times when i was the announcer, I would give the rustangs and maros a Whole lot of $#@$ when they got their butts handed to them by a v6 minivan, LOLOLOL
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I cant tell you about the lights... but I know for the longest time... they were an IHRA track. Its a very low budget track so anything is possible. But I can say Ive seen local friends cars pick up 4-5mph from NED to Cecil... and Cecil usually has the higher DA when they run. Not by enough to really care... but still higher.

Either way... next time I hit NED, I WILL trap 124-125. And you can qoute me on that.......


.....and then throw it in my face later when i dont do it
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Originally Posted by evangto87
I cant tell you about the lights... but I know for the longest time... they were an IHRA track. Its a very low budget track so anything is possible. But I can say Ive seen local friends cars pick up 4-5mph from NED to Cecil... and Cecil usually has the higher DA when they run. Not by enough to really care... but still higher.

Either way... next time I hit NED, I WILL trap 124-125. And you can qoute me on that.......


.....and then throw it in my face later when i dont do it
If your already trapping 122 would a sticker tire and more seat time get you that extra 2mph? just wondering is all
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Yea.. But just in case... ill have another 50lbs or so out of the drivetrain weight. Thats gotta be worth a mph or 2


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