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Old 10-31-2013, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Yea.. But just in case... ill have another 50lbs or so out of the drivetrain weight. Thats gotta be worth a mph or 2
ahh I see well good luck your almost there
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Originally Posted by Whiplash88
I sense a 5.0 butthurt storm approaching.


Haha I agree^^

Nice runs. I can't stand those 5.0 guys!!!
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Have not been to a 1/4 track since I bought the car. And a c5Z is heavier than you.. and we know what your weight is.

Your fbody is not a c5z... whether it has the motor or not. Like I said.. find me a full bolton c5z to run.

If I happen to find one myself locally, I'll be sure to set my gopro up.... it will definitely be pointing backwards, as you will see the front bumper of said c5z being pulled off.

Edit: and a little note... a full bolt-on C6Z would have some issue with me.
A c5 Z is about the same weight as me. I'm not lighter than a c5 Z. As a matter of fact a c5 Z with the same mods as me would be lighter by around 100


Originally Posted by Poppacapp
BTW... Mike.... how much is hio spraying?.......
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But that's when Doug ran his
Not really....I've been over 130 in 800+da.......and I don't have a artificial da maker like you.
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
I went and looked... here is the full bolt ons section.. stock cubes.... other than the top hero's, full bolt on z's are low 120's trapping cars. nowhere NEAR what is needed for bolton 13' 500 levels.


C5 Z06 External/Internal Bolt On times (stock cubes, n/a, cams, h/c, all bolt ons)

1---9.985 @ 138.80--1.428--robz----------'03 04/08------H/C, ET ST, Gears, Post 328, Slip
2--10.528 @ 133.04--1.483--94z28racecar-'03 03/12----H/C/I, UDP, Mcleod Twin, ET Streets, Post #59
3--10.672 @ 126.17--1.449--J Rod---------'02 xx/xx -----H/C G5X3, ET St, 4.10
4--10.882 @ 124.01--1.489--Envied Z------'04 05/13-----H/C, Fast 102, NW 102 TB, CAI, 4.10s, DRs, Post #97
5--10.933 @ 123.91--1.554--dhouston02---'03 11/11-----ET Streets, Cam + bolt ons, Post 44
6--10.938 @ 128.25--1.639--USAFZ06-----'02 12/09-----TFS, Comp, FAST, ARH, RPM, Spec, Post #471
7--11.206 @ 123.32--1.663--Quick 68------'03 02/09-----CAI, ported TB, UD pulley, cam, Post #382
8--11.258 @ 125.11--1.757--Skinny Kid----'02 11/09-----Cam, FAST, VR, DR's, Tex Exo-Skel, Post 456
9--11.276 @ 125.16--1.782--MX621-------'02 12/11------Nitto NT-05, Cam, LTs, FAST 92/92, CAI, Post 49
10-11.331 @ 120.33--1.642--pit-man------'03 02/07 -----H/C/I, LT, ET ST Slip

11.396 @ 121.16--1.518--BuddhaZ06---'01 04/12------H/C/I, 4.10 Gears, ET Streets, Post #62
11.399 @ 121.37--1.59x--427CPE-------'02 11/07------H/C, ET ST Radial, LT, CAI, Post 235, Video
11.41x @ 120.43--1.61x--NightmareZ06--'02 09/07 ---Cam, LT, CAI, BFG Inf
11.466 @ 119.19--1.594--Neez----------'01 12/12------H/C, LT, ET Streets Post #77
11.584 @ 122.86--1.727--02Thief-------'01 11/06------ET RDs, LT, Cam, 3.90s, Post 3 Slip
11.586 @ 119.84--1.592--n751961------'04 05/08------LT, VR, Gears, Cam, Post 284
11.601 @ 123.62--1.92x--ZZoomM06----'03 11/07------H/C/I, VR, Post 219 Slip
11.632 @ 123.98--1.802--svt2z06-------'02 09/07------H/C, LT, CAI, BFG Slip
11.653 @ 121.94--1.847---civlant-------'02 05/11------H/C, Ported Intake & TB, CAI, LTs, UDP, Post #22
11.672 @ 120.11--1.696--Sigforty-------'01 10/06------H/C, LT, 3.90s, CAI, Post 19
11.689 @ 118.59--1.689--TransAm2002--'03 03/09------Heads/Cam, ET ST, Full bolt ons, Post #388
11.692 @ 121.54--1.785--zapp109-------'04 08/09------Cam, VR, ARH LTs, UDP, Wide Ovals, Post #443
11.793 @ 119.40--1.683--White99FRC---'01 12/06------Cam, LT, VR Slip
11.811 @ 120.06--1.892--DANZGLASS---'02 10/11------Mild cam, heads, fast 92, DRs, Post #40
11.843 @ 122.39--1.851--Spdkilz--------'03 08/05------H/C, BFG DR Slip-Video
11.849 @ 121.736-1.868--Bullitt4110-----'01 11/07------Cam, LT, FAST 90, 4.10, CAI, Post 233, Slip
11.912 @ 116.7x--1.86x---H-Z/28-------'02 11/08------Cam, Clutch, CAI, DRs, Post #372
11.962 @ 117.xx--1.XXX--z06 hellcat----'04 05/08------Cam, LT, CAI, NT, Post 278, Slip
Looks like alot of h/c cars that run like **** on that list.
Originally Posted by Mike Morris
50 shot!! Bottle is where the air bag was. jk



Hioslow runs at shitty Mason Dixon.


Pop you have never ran at a track so you can't possibly say you can beat one at the strip. Street racing doesn't always mean the fastest car wins. Track is more controlling. GT500s 90 percent of the time even with 500 plus at the wheels run terrible in regards to their power and ET. Thano ran same night as Mr Law osw with his 09. With 715RWHP he actually ran about the same as Mr Law who was high 500s. Air quality was terrible that night though
They are some massive dyno queens.
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
I haven't run 1/4 yet... when I was pulley/tune @558rwhp, my car ran fairly consistent 98-99mph traps at our local 1/8th. Have not run yet with my new setup. No reason why it should not trap 108-110 range(Friend of mine with 50 or so more rwhp than me, but outweighs me by 150lbs easy + his car being heavier, traps 112 in his 07') I personally prefer roll racing.. not because I can't drive my car.. I can... I just don't like beating the crap out of the car launching it hard.
What was your 1/8 et? I run 100~ in the 1/8. I would have no problem making a c5 z do better than my camaro. Would it get to the 108-110 range??? No ....not with just bolt-ons.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
A c5 Z is about the same weight as me. I'm not lighter than a c5 Z. As a matter of fact a c5 Z with the same mods as me would be lighter by around 100



lol

Not really....I've been over 130 in 800+da.......and I don't have a artificial da maker like you.

Looks like alot of h/c cars that run like **** on that list.

They are some massive dyno queens.


What was your 1/8 et? I run 100~ in the 1/8. I would have no problem making a c5 z do better than my camaro. Would it get to the 108-110 range??? No ....not with just bolt-ons.
ET when I was pulley/tune(the few times I ran) sucked. mid 7's@99. The 20" tires have no decent traction, even though they are 555rs, and the track I ran at did zero prep. 60ft's averaged 2.0's, along with rolling 2nd gear burnouts.

That was 140rwhp ago, and I have a set of Racestar 15x10's sitting waiting for a set of slicks, or ET Street Pro's... haven't decided which one I want to run yet. Also have a N2MB WOT box sitting in the trunk ready to install, along with a set of Steeda Poly motor mounts.

My issue is time. I average 60+hrs a week at work, and have little time to make it to the track, or work on the car.

I plan on beefing up the rear suspension setup this winter and be more ready for Spring track visits.... lower control arms, relocation brackets, axle brace, welded axle tubes, Moser 31-spline axles etc. Again... when I have the time to...

Edit: BTW, when I AM able to make it to a 1/4 mile track.. I have a feeling this thing can pick up 25-30mph on the backhalf easy... top end is rediculous now.
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N2MB sucks. Doing a burnout you'll be hitting your 2 step set point... And if you unplug it during a burnout, car will shut off or won't turn on.

The no lift shift feature also sucked. I guess if you have time to practice with it it might be okay.

I would just run an MSD 2 step, all plug and play. No splicing into your factory harness. I had both. Strongly recomend the MSD. UNLESS, n2mb fixed the 2 step during a burnout issue....
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
N2MB sucks. Doing a burnout you'll be hitting your 2 step set point... And if you unplug it during a burnout, car will shut off or won't turn on.

The no lift shift feature also sucked. I guess if you have time to practice with it it might be okay.

I would just run an MSD 2 step, all plug and play. No splicing into your factory harness. I had both. Strongly recomend the MSD. UNLESS, n2mb fixed the 2 step during a burnout issue....
How would you hit the 2 step setpoint during a burnout? The 2 step does not activate until the clutch is pushed in? Have seen some track vids with guys running the wot box.. seemed ok in those vids. I am not so much wanting the 2 step function as the no lift shift.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
How would you hit the 2 step setpoint during a burnout? The 2 step does not activate until the clutch is pushed in? Have seen some track vids with guys running the wot box.. seemed ok in those vids. I am not so much wanting the 2 step function as the no lift shift.
It's SUPER touchy I hit the 2 step on my burn out until I take my foot TOTALLY off the clutch

Read the RPM lock out feature stops this ima try it tomorrow
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
It's SUPER touchy I hit the 2 step on my burn out until I take my foot TOTALLY off the clutch

Read the RPM lock out feature stops this ima try it tomorrow
Hope I don't have any issues with it. Going to install a line lock too.. already got the shiftknob with built in button.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
How would you hit the 2 step setpoint during a burnout? The 2 step does not activate until the clutch is pushed in? Have seen some track vids with guys running the wot box.. seemed ok in those vids. I am not so much wanting the 2 step function as the no lift shift.
No idea. I had it wired up to my clutch pedal signal switch, for whatever reason... Foot completely off the clutch, holding a 2nd gear burnout if was hitting the 2 step.

A lot of other people have had this issue too.

MSD IMO is much better where it's all plug and play. And you can hook it up to a momentary or an on/off switch. shut it off during burnout, on after.

The no lift shift feature hurt my centri 2v. I shut it off, instantly picked up 3 tenths and 3mph. It's pretty touchy, it takes some time.

Only way I'd ever use it again, is if I was turbo'd with a MT.
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I've never ran a 2step or a wot box. Although we did put one on my car a couple weeks ago. It helped bust the rear tuning it. Not sure if I'll like it or not. Seems like it takes some of the driving out of it to me. With technology being what it is these days it just seemed like a evolution.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I've never ran a 2step or a wot box. Although we did put one on my car a couple weeks ago. It helped bust the rear tuning it. Not sure if I'll like it or not. Seems like it takes some of the driving out of it to me. With technology being what it is these days it just seemed like a evolution.
This is another reason I didn't like the n2mb as far as no lift shift feature... I'd rather drive the car myself.
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N2MB indeed sucks. My buddies Corvette had issues with hitting it during the burnout then not engaging at the tree. That and you can no lift shift and be faster than utilizing their no lift shift feature.
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Originally Posted by SCalla1384
N2MB sucks. Doing a burnout you'll be hitting your 2 step set point... And if you unplug it during a burnout, car will shut off or won't turn on.

The no lift shift feature also sucked. I guess if you have time to practice with it it might be okay.

I would just run an MSD 2 step, all plug and play. No splicing into your factory harness. I had both. Strongly recomend the MSD. UNLESS, n2mb fixed the 2 step during a burnout issue....
I disagree. I have no issues with my WOTBOX, it doesn't do any of that stuff.

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You must be fortunate. Idk why, but a lot of people have that issue.

I was on drag radials at the 2 step set at 4000rpm. Trying to do a burnout, obviously foots off the clutch and it was sitting there hitting the 2 step.

The one thing I liked about n2mb (with boost) is the fact that you can set a rev limiter. Hitting ignition cut vs fuel cut can save your motor.
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video for proof.


Perhaps someone wired those other WOTBOXs wrong...
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Hope I don't have any issues with it. Going to install a line lock too.. already got the shiftknob with built in button.
Get a raptor shift light too.

You can see in my vid where I mounted mine in front of the gauges. That is a place that doesn't require drilling.
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**** that list above if I can trap 130 h/c and still be streetable and drive perfect I'd be happy. Thats no cutting weight.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
A c5 Z is about the same weight as me. I'm not lighter than a c5 Z. As a matter of fact a c5 Z with the same mods as me would be lighter by around 100



lol

Not really....I've been over 130 in 800+da.......and I don't have a artificial da maker like you.

Looks like alot of h/c cars that run like **** on that list.

They are some massive dyno queens.


What was your 1/8 et? I run 100~ in the 1/8. I would have no problem making a c5 z do better than my camaro. Would it get to the 108-110 range??? No ....not with just bolt-ons.
Bolt on 13 gt500 are stupid with bolt ons. Just need a driver.guys are making 700-800whp with bolt ons. 93/E85. You can say E85 don't count but ive watch a lot of the fastest cars in events like 1/2 mile and even drag strip all run e85 or racegas. Yet they don't mention it.
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It's not that say e85 don't count.....I say you can't have a fair comparison between cars with each on a different fuel. This is why most pro auto racing has a spec fuel. The problem that alot of people don't disclose what fuel they're on only adds that.

I guess I'm just not sneaky like that. To me if the car can't do it in a form I can drive it anywhere on then it just can't do it.
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Why should I need to drive my car cross country? I have a 40 mpg daily for that. As far as I'm concerned they sell e85 in abundance at the pump here so I consider it pump gas.


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