LT1 Z28 vs. S197 GT 3v
04-04-2016, 12:16 PM
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You keep telling yourself that cupcake. Yea.....lt's had no problem hitting 13s stock. You're want to bring up record times for the 2v. Idk what s record time for a lt is but it would have to be in the mid 13s i would think.
2vs were **** with virtually no hope of na performance. Same can really be said for the 3v.
2vs were **** with virtually no hope of na performance. Same can really be said for the 3v.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/car-r...ng-comparison/
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Yeah, I agree with no hope of NA performance, at least not GM levels. A twisted wedge head, cam, full exhaust, and gear car is capable of 11's, but for the cost you might as well go blown.
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04-04-2016, 05:41 PM
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My buddy got a 97 Trans-Am, he installed a 3000 Redneck converter ran 13.5 with a 170 thousand km's on the motor. Than he installed a full exhaust, gears,mailorder tune ran 12.8's all day.
04-04-2016, 11:05 PM
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I'm not talking record cars, I'm talking about the average driver. The fastest stock PI GT that I've ever heard of was 13.7@102. There is an old 5.0 article that has a stock 01 Bullitt running a 13.59@102.4, as well as a Mach 1 running 13.19@106.7
http://www.mustangandfords.com/car-r...ng-comparison/
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Yeah, I agree with no hope of NA performance, at least not GM levels. A twisted wedge head, cam, full exhaust, and gear car is capable of 11's, but for the cost you might as well go blown.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/car-r...ng-comparison/
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Yeah, I agree with no hope of NA performance, at least not GM levels. A twisted wedge head, cam, full exhaust, and gear car is capable of 11's, but for the cost you might as well go blown.
If so and the #'s for the mystangs are good then i would say they would make a lt car go like 13.3~. Which would seem about right.
If a 2v can go 13.59 then a lt can do a 13.3
04-05-2016, 01:50 AM
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I still say there is no way a base LT1 is getting into the 13's, but I also know that a base PI GT isn't getting there either.
Either way, regardless of 13's or 14's, a PI GT is a good challenger for an LT1 based car.
04-05-2016, 07:42 AM
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No....you posted a link with record times. I said if you're gonna post record times for those cars you need to do the same for the others. .....pretty simple concept.
From the looks of it a pi2v and old lt are about .3 apart .....just like i said. That don't mean a lt will outrun every 2v.......but it probably should.
But for the sske if saying it. By the time the pi 2v was even near keeping up with a lt the ls1 was out. So it really don't matter.
From the looks of it a pi2v and old lt are about .3 apart .....just like i said. That don't mean a lt will outrun every 2v.......but it probably should.
But for the sske if saying it. By the time the pi 2v was even near keeping up with a lt the ls1 was out. So it really don't matter.
04-05-2016, 09:36 AM
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I really think my old 97 ws6 when I bought it was a high 13 car as it sat. Granted it had a Flowmaster catback and BBK shorties when I bought it, the 2500-3500 summer DA wouldn't have helped.
It definitely gave some 2v and 3v cars some hiccups, but I know what 2v and 3v cars are capable of.
It definitely gave some 2v and 3v cars some hiccups, but I know what 2v and 3v cars are capable of.
04-05-2016, 11:44 AM
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No....you posted a link with record times. I said if you're gonna post record times for those cars you need to do the same for the others. .....pretty simple concept.
From the looks of it a pi2v and old lt are about .3 apart .....just like i said. That don't mean a lt will outrun every 2v.......but it probably should.
But for the sske if saying it. By the time the pi 2v was even near keeping up with a lt the ls1 was out. So it really don't matter.
From the looks of it a pi2v and old lt are about .3 apart .....just like i said. That don't mean a lt will outrun every 2v.......but it probably should.
But for the sske if saying it. By the time the pi 2v was even near keeping up with a lt the ls1 was out. So it really don't matter.
I really think my old 97 ws6 when I bought it was a high 13 car as it sat. Granted it had a Flowmaster catback and BBK shorties when I bought it, the 2500-3500 summer DA wouldn't have helped.
It definitely gave some 2v and 3v cars some hiccups, but I know what 2v and 3v cars are capable of.
It definitely gave some 2v and 3v cars some hiccups, but I know what 2v and 3v cars are capable of.
04-05-2016, 11:47 AM
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I just explained where .3 came from.
You can have that pos 2v. I'll take the lt and thrash you you with it. You have a 2v running 4v times and mph. A pi 2v won't trap with a lt either. The best thing they can do is utilize the low 1st gear of the m5. They lay down worse up top than the other modular stuff.
You can have that pos 2v. I'll take the lt and thrash you you with it. You have a 2v running 4v times and mph. A pi 2v won't trap with a lt either. The best thing they can do is utilize the low 1st gear of the m5. They lay down worse up top than the other modular stuff.
04-05-2016, 12:03 PM
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oil leaks and optispark. lol. typical person who knows jack **** about LT1 cars. I beat the **** out of all the 2vs in my area. cobras of the 2v era were the only things that could keep up with me
04-05-2016, 12:30 PM
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04-05-2016, 12:34 PM
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