LT1 Z28 vs. S197 GT 3v
03-16-2014, 01:20 AM
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I have owned two different lt1 cars one auto and one 6 speed. the auto car had a best of 13.5 and the stick car went 13.7, My wife's 07 tuned 3 valve went 13.06 at 106 with 331 gears with an auto tuned cai . Lt1 sucks stock that is..
03-16-2014, 06:56 PM
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The 3V Mustangs were every bit as quick as the early 4V cars.
03-16-2014, 11:54 PM
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Like I said;
I'm talking about a car's actual potential based off what actual owners of the cars have been able to run at the best tracks in the country in the best conditions, in the nearly two decades since they were released. I feel that's a pretty good deck to draw from.
It's pretty common knowledge that the 3V is pretty much square in the middle of the Mach 1 and pre-'03 Cobra; high 13s with most semi-ok drivers, mid 13s with a good driver and good conditions, and lowER 13s on a hero run. It doesn't have to be astounding performance, cuz it's just the truth.
03-17-2014, 01:26 AM
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Well that's the point really... An lt1 SS has a couple of basic mods which are easily done to the other lt1 cars. I'm not even talking lt4 cars which put down ls1 numbers. If memory serves though over at CZ28 over a decade ago one of the quickest stock lt1 cars I had heard of was a 93 z28. Either way I'm not boasting the lt1 is superior, if anything I'm saying a 3v and an lt1 are more of a drivers race than the infamous Mach 1 vs ls1 debate.
Then wtf were you arguing with me about?
03-17-2014, 12:10 PM
#154
SS LT1s were not faster than a regular LT1. Unless you are talking about the red SS that the mags tested and was a real ringer.
3 valves stock was a tad faster than an LT1 with same combo. But an LT1 debuted over 10 years earlier.... 3 Valves were very weak compared to their competition of the same time period.
3 valves stock was a tad faster than an LT1 with same combo. But an LT1 debuted over 10 years earlier.... 3 Valves were very weak compared to their competition of the same time period.
03-17-2014, 12:40 PM
#155
SS LT1s were not faster than a regular LT1. Unless you are talking about the red SS that the mags tested and was a real ringer.
3 valves stock was a tad faster than an LT1 with same combo. But an LT1 debuted over 10 years earlier.... 3 Valves were very weak compared to their competition of the same time period.
3 valves stock was a tad faster than an LT1 with same combo. But an LT1 debuted over 10 years earlier.... 3 Valves were very weak compared to their competition of the same time period.
03-17-2014, 05:36 PM
#158
Figured this thread would have been dead and long forgotten by now, but since it isn't here is a useless update.
Took it to London Dragway this past Saturday and ran it again. Nothing has changed since Bowling Green with the exception of maybe some more tire wear.
Was up about an average of 1 mph for the way the car usually runs at London. DA was at 2000'. Was just mainly happy to be pulling off 1.69 60' times again with a 2k stall (1500-1600 rpm in reality) and 3.42 gears. Got to get that 1/8th mile time knocked down though!
As for stock LT1's and 1/4 mile times. I had a very rough looking 1993 Z28 automatic w/ 2.73 gears and street tires went a 14.07 at Bowling Green a few years back. Car could have weighed more or less than factory due to mucho bondo and a lot of misc. stuff missing from the car.
As for 3v's? I wouldn't mind owning one myself. Like the looks of the body style, but just waiting for them to decrease more in value so I can pick one up and add to the collection.
Took it to London Dragway this past Saturday and ran it again. Nothing has changed since Bowling Green with the exception of maybe some more tire wear.
Was up about an average of 1 mph for the way the car usually runs at London. DA was at 2000'. Was just mainly happy to be pulling off 1.69 60' times again with a 2k stall (1500-1600 rpm in reality) and 3.42 gears. Got to get that 1/8th mile time knocked down though!
As for stock LT1's and 1/4 mile times. I had a very rough looking 1993 Z28 automatic w/ 2.73 gears and street tires went a 14.07 at Bowling Green a few years back. Car could have weighed more or less than factory due to mucho bondo and a lot of misc. stuff missing from the car.
As for 3v's? I wouldn't mind owning one myself. Like the looks of the body style, but just waiting for them to decrease more in value so I can pick one up and add to the collection.
03-17-2014, 06:16 PM
#160
I'll give you the GTO, but the fifth gen is a bit of a stretch...we're talking 5 years later by then, but I do see your point. I just never understood all the hate. The car was a progression in every possibly way from the previous iteration, except for looks IMO. I hated those bloated bastards.