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Old 04-20-2014, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Notchs car made about the same as most cookie cutter LS bolt cars make with out headers longtubes or a fast or a tune. I think its pretty evident the clutch freed up some power. Either that or it was a high reading dyno
I made 413 on that dyno before the fast and rockers, I should do over 430 on that dyno now. I have been on quite a few dyno's and can say it reads like all the other dynojets I have been on. I have been on them with out my clutch to.
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In a frontal collision at that speed, airbags will most definitely make a difference. Stop trying to justify removing safety equipment, you are wrong.
I'm not wrong at all. There are way too many variables in a crash to say which piece would save you in a crash that has not happened.

For example. My car is 300lb lighter with the oe wheels/spare and jack in it. The structure just not having to stop that 300lb could make the difference.
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Sometimes the little that they can do at highway speed is enough to save you. Kinda like getting hit by an oncoming car wearing a helmet vs. not wearing a helmet; there wasn't much separating me from death when that happened to me, but because I was wearing a helmet it was 3 weeks in the hospital vs. being buried. Like I said, I'm not eliminating almost every piece of safety equipment on my car just to save 50-100lbs. Not a shot at you or anyone else that does it, just how I see it.

Edit: And airbags still do quite a bit at highway speeds when it comes to slowing the body's rate of deceleration. Even if it's only slowing your head down so you don't pull/break your neck.
No comparison between a helmet and a airbag...... you were reading hard there.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
What build
Lol.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver

No comparison between a helmet and a airbag...... you were reading hard there.
Right over your head, as expected. And actually there is a very large comparison (though that wasn't even my point), as they are both designed to do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I made 413 on that dyno before the fast and rockers, I should do over 430 on that dyno now. I have been on quite a few dyno's and can say it reads like all the other dynojets I have been on. I have been on them with out my clutch to.

I'm not wrong at all. There are way too many variables in a crash to say which piece would save you in a crash that has not happened.

For example. My car is 300lb lighter with the oe wheels/spare and jack in it. The structure just not having to stop that 300lb could make the difference.

No comparison between a helmet and a airbag...... you were reading hard there.
Sure, the "structure" would most likely hold up better. However, the rapid stop that your body will encounter against your seatbelt, steering wheel, windshield, or whatever parts are still actually on your car, is where the problem lies. The car will have 2 inches less intrusion, but you'll be a pile of mush...solid argument.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Now add that 15 to your 358........it just turned into a stout bolt-on car didn't it..........probably better than alot of cam only cars. I never noticed any hp on a dyno from my clutch. Some say they do but I have not. Your seat belt is your first line of defense in a crash. My wife weighs less than 90lb. The air bag could kill her. In a 60+ mph crash the air bag is gonna do little to save you. A hit in your door at 60 and your dead......airbag or not.
372hp is a pretty good bolt on car, but it's not 400 lol. And yeah if you're going to take out all the safety crap you might as well save yourself the hassle and get a street bike.
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All you jokers making fun of the hole saw, all he is doing is adding new crumple zones. He should survive a pretty nasty wreck with no issue.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
All you jokers making fun of the hole saw, all he is doing is adding new crumple zones. He should survive a pretty nasty wreck with no issue.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Lol.
Cams only
Old 04-20-2014, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
All you jokers making fun of the hole saw, all he is doing is adding new crumple zones. He should survive a pretty nasty wreck with no issue.
You and I work in the same field...they DEFINITELY help far more than they hurt.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Cams only
Lol, by SRK standards that term gives you a slight bit of leeway haha.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Lol, by SRK standards that term gives you a slight bit of leeway haha.
No hole saws will be harmed
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I was cam/lid only for a while. Literally.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
No hole saws will be harmed
Lmao!
Old 04-20-2014, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
I was cam/lid only for a while. Literally.
You know damn well that you're one of the rare few that hasn't stretched the meaning of that "classification". Lol.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
You know damn well that you're one of the rare few that hasn't stretched the meaning of that "classification". Lol.
Yep. Lol. Of course it is a pita to try to explain I have an ls1 with an ls6 cam and bolt ons. Its beyond tempting just to say its an ls6 and call it a day. I can understand people trying to simplify things.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
What build

What car? I parted it out slowpoke
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
You know damn well that you're one of the rare few that hasn't stretched the meaning of that "classification". Lol.
I don't know why that term makes the cobros so mad when the mustang crew is notorious for greatly stretching the limits of "bolt on only".
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I don't know why that term makes the cobros so mad when the mustang crew is notorious for greatly stretching the limits of "bolt on only".
Who's mad? Lol. I was just pointing out that a lot of people push the limits of verbiage. However, you are correct, it definitely goes both ways.
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"Stock heads" would be a better description than "cam only."
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I don't know why that term makes the cobros so mad when the mustang crew is notorious for greatly stretching the limits of "bolt on only".
You're always crying about the bolt on only thing not sure how you can call anyone butt hurt LoL


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