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Old 05-07-2014, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Lol, how tall is Snake anyway? I'm 6'2 or thereabouts...we might be able to work something out, lol. (All homo)
I'll let him chime in. Think 6'4-6'6.
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Eff that. Selling mine was a good decision.
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I don't even know, it's some weird mix of which is the better motor and if the coyote will equal or surpass the LS in popularity. All I've gathered is 4.slow is a ******* idiot and the ford guys semi butthurt that people think the 5.0 won't be as popular as a swap option as the LS is.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
Why spend 5k on n/a power to make 500? Coyote problems. With an LS you can make over 500 with a fraction the amount invested and still make just as much power in f/i applications.

It's competitive but to say it is superior to the ls3 is an outrageous statement.
I ended up buying a new mustang and a blower for less than a used camaro ss cost. So to say you can make more power for less with an ls3 is not entirely true when the car it comes in costs way more than its ford counter part. I will say since I own cars with both motor I prefer the lsx because it is easier and cheaper for me to work on and tune myself. I think both are good motors. The coyote makes more power with less displacement than my ls1 did with same mods.
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Originally Posted by willizm
What are you guys even arguing about anymore? Yeessh. Yeah both platforms have their pros and cons. Sure you might pay a little more to get a 5.0 to 500whp but guess what, that's money that doesn't have to go toward the ticking time bomb known as a 10 bolt.
In case haven't paid attention the 8.8 isn't exacly bullet proof in a heavy car that makes power
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:46 PM
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Pretty sure 95yearstofinishmysnake is 6'7".
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Pretty sure 95yearstofinishmysnake is 6'7".
Yes. 6 feet 7 inches.

Update on the 95 years front: we were out driving last night, tuning until about midnight and noticed the A/F ratios were effed up and inconsistent, opened the hood and discovered a vacuum leak from a cracked line. Easy fix.

Then a few mins later, a coolant line (that somehow didn't have a hose clamp on it) spit coolant out, so we had to limp the bitch back to the house and fix it. We're riiiiiiight there! I'm so ******' anxious to drive this thing I can't even stand it. At least we're very close, anyway.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Indeed, cam swap plus any or every other mod under the sun except for heads or a power adder. It's the losest term anyone can come up with. Too bad the dude said just a cam change, as in he was trying to make it sound like a cam alone is going to make that kind of power. Why I said he makes a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to LSx anything. But just like the LS3, the 5.0 can make over 500whp "cam only" also. They're both awesome production engines, it's just that some people try to beat one down just because the other may be a little better in certain ways. They're ignorance is annoying.
I think the exaggeration comes from both ends. automach believes 2v's are better mod for mod then an ls1 car. It is what it is.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
I don't even know, it's some weird mix of which is the better motor and if the coyote will equal or surpass the LS in popularity. All I've gathered is 4.slow is a ******* idiot and the ford guys semi butthurt that people think the 5.0 won't be as popular as a swap option as the LS is.
I scratch my head on why anyone would be upset that a modular ford motor isn't as popular of a swap as an LS motor. Hell, you don't see 2j owners getting bent out of shape that people don't swap them to the frequency of LS motors.

https://www.youtube.com/?autoplay=1watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0&autoplay=1
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I think the debate began because the GM guys claimed the LS as the superior motor, citing the "swapability" as one of the reasons for their opinion. That's what I've gathered.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
I think the debate began because the GM guys claimed the LS as the superior motor, citing the "swapability" as one of the reasons for their opinion. That's what I've gathered.
I Think it was actually because a 5.0 owner said it was superior than an LS3. Hence the back and forth comparison.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
I Think it was actually because a 5.0 owner said it was superior than an LS3. Hence the back and forth comparison.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
Full bolt ons, heads/cams/intake and it barely makes over 500.

Is that 550? No....
and you have to do the same thing to an ls motor to get the same results, your point is invalid.
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Seems like he made a good point Artic. Cam only ls3's can make over 500. Bolt-on ls7's can make over 500 also. No heads needed.
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So can 5.0s...
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Seems like he made a good point Artic. Cam only ls3's can make over 500. Bolt-on ls7's can make over 500 also. No heads needed.
Headless LS7. Interesting. Makes sense, flow numbers = off the charts!



I'm obviously joking, but it was funny at a glance.
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According to these guys they need heads.

And I think everyone will agree they are not gonna do it with just bolt-ons.


So your point was???
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Originally Posted by snake95
Headless LS7. Interesting. Makes sense, flow numbers = off the charts!



I'm obviously joking, but it was funny at a glance.
maximum flow!
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
According to these guys they need heads.

And I think everyone will agree they are not gonna do it with just bolt-ons.


So your point was what???
They will make over 500rwhp H/C, can do it cam only, and can also make 550rwhp with H/C and some attention.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
According to these guys they need heads.

And I think everyone will agree they are not gonna do it with just bolt-ons.


So your point was???
I think we're getting at the new 5.0 can make 500whp+ cam only as well. No head work needed. I don't know exactly what flow numbers are for the heads, but they gotta be up there for stock heads to be able to create such power.
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All the tests I have seen from cammed coyotes show them in the 440-450 whp range with full bolt ons. The only coyote posted here that has even made over 500 had heads and cams.

A coyote will not make and has not made over 500 with "just cams" and bolt ons. Another lie.

Comp cams themselves only got 434 whp with stage 2 cams, full exhaust, tune, cai.


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Originally Posted by redline2k
In case haven't paid attention the 8.8 isn't exacly bullet proof in a heavy car that makes power
yup. revvin' Evan with no meat bent an axle on his 8.8 with just bolt ons.
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