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Old 05-07-2014, 01:01 PM
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Lol, she is terrifying.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Lotus engineered, Mercury Marine built. And wtf are you talking about 350 and 400hp options?
think the original lt5 was around 380 hp then it got an HP bump to 400.
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Yeah, I was thinking 385 and 405...but then though I might be confusing it with a C5Z. I can't remember which had what.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
ford didn't invent DOHC or tivct either.
Oh I must have amnesia and forgot where I said they did.

Why so defensive?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
think the original lt5 was around 380 hp then it got an HP bump to 400.
It was 375hp till '93, then got a bump to 405hp. I know all about C4s, and the original ZR1 is one of my absolute favorite cars... But the engine wasn't engineered or made by GM, and there weren't any 350hp or 400hp "options." That's what I was getting at. It sounded/looked like he just skimmed over a Wikipedia page and regurgitated something.
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Originally Posted by snake95
Oh I must have amnesia and forgot where I said they did.

Why so defensive?
i'm trolling in between sets here.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
It was 375hp till '93, then got a bump to 405hp. I know all about C4s, and the original ZR1 is one of my absolute favorite cars... But the engine wasn't engineered or made by GM, and there weren't any 350hp or 400hp "options." That's what I was getting at. It sounded/looked like he just skimmed over a Wikipedia page and regurgitated something.
they never built it. it made no sense for them to tool up for such a low production engine so they outsourced it.
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That's definitely part of it. They also didn't have much experience making high output overhead-cam engines, and conveniently had just acquired a company that had extensive experience. It was the perfect storm.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
That's definitely part of it. They also didn't have much experience making high output overhead-cam engines, and conveniently had just acquired a company that had extensive experience. It was the perfect storm.
from a business stand point it made sense.

they did have high zoot OHC engines in the 60's though.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
i'm trolling in between sets here.
Sets of what? You throwing up reps of 315!?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
i'm trolling in between sets here.
Understood.
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[QUOTE=BlackGasGuzzler;18194718]
We can cherry pick all day long.
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Cherry picking LOL if anything you cherry picked the slowest trapping c7 you could find. all the stock c7's im finding are trapping 117-119
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Originally Posted by JakeyLS1

Cherry picking LOL if anything you cherry picked the slowest trapping c7 you could find. all the stock c7's im finding are trapping 117-119
I think that was mostly his point. As much of an improvement it is over the C6 overall, the difference in straight line speed is almost inconsequential.
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I like both cars and for the sake of not creating a bigger arguement I will agree to disagree LOL
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
No, but yet again, appropriate spelling and grammatical efficiency helps others understand your typically ill-informed and frankly pathetic posts. I didn't think that pointing out a fact was being a douche, but last I heard, your car was in the mid-twelve second range...thus, well withing even "cam only" 2v territory. Just sayin'.
Being the grammar ****, you should ensure that you're practicing what you preach.

FORD trolls, this is a GM biased forum. What else do you blue tie guys expect to see on a site that has LS1 in its title? The coyote is the baddest motor on the planet? Get real.

Carry on!
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Originally Posted by JakeyLS1
I like both cars and for the sake of not creating a bigger arguement I will agree to disagree LOL
I didn't realize this was an argument?
Originally Posted by Buzzmanb12
Being the grammar ****, you should ensure that you're practicing what you preach.

FORD trolls, this is a GM biased forum. What else do you blue tie guys expect to see on a site that has LS1 in its title? The coyote is the baddest motor on the planet? Get real.

Carry on!
For the record, I'm pretty sure none of the Ford owners in here are trolling. The only troll I've seen post has been 4pointslow.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Lotus engineered, Mercury Marine built. And wtf are you talking about 350 and 400hp options?
It was standard with 385hp and they built a more performance one with 405hp... idk why thats hard to understand... also yes Lotus did engineer it and Mercury built it but still doesnt matter bc GM had a 350hp or 400hp ohc engine long before Ford caught up...
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Yeah, I was thinking 385 and 405...but then though I might be confusing it with a C5Z. I can't remember which had what.
Was it 385? Lol mybad i knew it was more then 350hp but around or less than 400hp lol either way may point still stands
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Originally Posted by snake95
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I find it hilarious that ford took nearly 20yrs to produce a ohc engine 4v with more than 400hp when gm did it in the 90s in the Zr1 with the LT5 they had two power options 350hp and 400hp hmmm
Lmao just stop dude.

This is one of those times when people dismiss your posts because you've passed full retard.

You're also uneducated on the LT5. Lotus, skip. Lotus. GM didn't engineer that engine.
Im retarded and yet gm had an ohc engine car that took ford 2 decades to catch up on? Lol yup sounds bout right...
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Originally Posted by Iliac
As has been pointed out I completely worded my statement wrong about the Cylinder/CU thing. The statement remains true....the coyote is giving up 1.2 Liters on the motor.

Regardless......for the sake of the conversation here are the specs for all relevant vehicles straight from their manufacturers.

CR= Compression Ratio
CW= Curb Weight
M5/A6 = Manual/Auto + Total gears

Weights in parenthesis for Mustangs are in comparison to GM vehicles

Weight for auto cars are in blue below


LS3 Camaro SS | $33,355 | 426HP 6.2L LS3 10.7CR | CW M5 = 3908lbs

C7 | $53,000 | 460HP 6.2L LT1 11.5CR | CW M7 = 3298lbs / CW A6 = Unknown

5.Br0 GT | $31,210 | 420HP 5.0L 11.0CR | CW M6 = 3618lbs (+320lbs C7 / -290lbs SS)

14 GT500 | $55,100 | 662HP 5.8L-SC 9.0CR | CW M6 = 3845lbs (+554lbs C7 / -66lbs SS)

LS3 Camaro SS | CW A6 = Unknown
C7 CW A6 = Unknown
5.Br0 GT CW A6 = 3675lbs (+377lbs C7 / -233lbs SS)
14 GT500 Auto not offered
My SS 5th gen full weight with 3/4 gas tank is 3780lbs, just saying. 3900lbs is the worst weight Ive ever heard for this car.


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