Bolt-on A6 Coyote vs Stock A6 C7
05-07-2014, 04:47 PM
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It was 375hp till '93, then got a bump to 405hp. I know all about C4s, and the original ZR1 is one of my absolute favorite cars... But the engine wasn't engineered or made by GM, and there weren't any 350hp or 400hp "options." That's what I was getting at. It sounded/looked like he just skimmed over a Wikipedia page and regurgitated something.
05-07-2014, 05:35 PM
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Lol wrong just because you don't remember something doesn't mean you looked at wiki dumbass! Hell i was 1 year old when the Lt5 Zr1 came out but great thing is my dad has always loved vettes and vipers. I learned a lot bout vettes from him. And he has had a lot of them. Personally i dont think they even look that good or even worth the asking price that they are going for. Its hard for me to spend 27k (thats the last one ive seen) on a 25yr car. When i can easily buy a c5 and do a hell of a lot more with it.
05-07-2014, 05:48 PM
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Yes you're a ******* moron because you still haven't grasped that GM didn't design the LT5.
The funniest part is that sometimes, it appears as if you actually think you're smart. Then it just takes a small topic like OHC engines to how how you're...just...not.
OHC engines have been around before the LT5 and Ford 4.6, skip.
05-07-2014, 05:49 PM
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4.6 Has been 6s so no.
Yea because we all know the 5.0 has no power band what so ever 
Evan just made 475 where are these 475whp sae ls3 Bolton cars? Stop drinking the cool aid 
People using peak HP and HP/L are just proving that they know nothing about racing.
Average power is what makes a car ET, and the LS3 has the 5.0 beat by 15-20hp alllllll through the RPM range. Being lighter, cheaper, easier to build, responding better to mods, making more power, and being physically smaller are all just added icing on the cake
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5.0 is a great engine, and probably Fords best for a long time, but its no LS3. If it wasn't so damn expensive and complicated to build then it would be a much harder decision.
Average power is what makes a car ET, and the LS3 has the 5.0 beat by 15-20hp alllllll through the RPM range. Being lighter, cheaper, easier to build, responding better to mods, making more power, and being physically smaller are all just added icing on the cake
.5.0 is a great engine, and probably Fords best for a long time, but its no LS3. If it wasn't so damn expensive and complicated to build then it would be a much harder decision.
Evan just made 475 where are these 475whp sae ls3 Bolton cars? Stop drinking the cool aid
05-07-2014, 06:30 PM
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Being the grammar ****, you should ensure that you're practicing what you preach.
FORD trolls, this is a GM biased forum. What else do you blue tie guys expect to see on a site that has LS1 in its title? The coyote is the baddest motor on the planet? Get real.
Carry on!
FORD trolls, this is a GM biased forum. What else do you blue tie guys expect to see on a site that has LS1 in its title? The coyote is the baddest motor on the planet? Get real.
Carry on!
05-07-2014, 07:32 PM
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Unlike you in your fairy tale world I need more then one car and one dyno to pass judgement on a car.
Not being motor biased, there are claimed 430-440 rwhp LT1s that ET worse and trapped 1-2mph better then my 350rwhp build. Yea the auto ET better, but trap speed doesn't lie.
That being said, that same old 350rwhp LT1 also ran quicker then your million hp GT500 too so who knows
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05-07-2014, 07:36 PM
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"475" hp but didn't it not run the number? Not taking anything away from him since it's an awesome car and well thought out, but I wouldn't be surprised if the dyno was just a bit optimistic. Not his fault of course...
Unlike you in your fairy tale world I need more then one car and one dyno to pass judgement on a car.
Not being motor biased, there are claimed 430-440 rwhp LT1s that ET worse and trapped 1-2mph better then my 350rwhp build. Yea the auto ET better, but trap speed doesn't lie.
That being said, that same old 350rwhp LT1 also ran quicker then your million hp GT500 too so who knows.
Unlike you in your fairy tale world I need more then one car and one dyno to pass judgement on a car.
Not being motor biased, there are claimed 430-440 rwhp LT1s that ET worse and trapped 1-2mph better then my 350rwhp build. Yea the auto ET better, but trap speed doesn't lie.
That being said, that same old 350rwhp LT1 also ran quicker then your million hp GT500 too so who knows
.lol remember when automach posted a vid of his run cut off half way through then posted someone else timeslip?
that was good times.
05-07-2014, 07:39 PM
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05-07-2014, 08:35 PM
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"475" hp but didn't it not run the number? Not taking anything away from him since it's an awesome car and well thought out, but I wouldn't be surprised if the dyno was just a bit optimistic. Not his fault of course...
Unlike you in your fairy tale world I need more then one car and one dyno to pass judgement on a car.
Not being motor biased, there are claimed 430-440 rwhp LT1s that ET worse and trapped 1-2mph better then my 350rwhp build. Yea the auto ET better, but trap speed doesn't lie.
That being said, that same old 350rwhp LT1 also ran quicker then your million hp GT500 too so who knows.
Unlike you in your fairy tale world I need more then one car and one dyno to pass judgement on a car.
Not being motor biased, there are claimed 430-440 rwhp LT1s that ET worse and trapped 1-2mph better then my 350rwhp build. Yea the auto ET better, but trap speed doesn't lie.
That being said, that same old 350rwhp LT1 also ran quicker then your million hp GT500 too so who knows
. What did this 350whp lt turd run? Remember trap speed doesn't lie
05-07-2014, 10:22 PM
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An LT4 Vette is a good fight for one stock to stock though in the 1/4 mile. The LT5 will pull it up top. LT5 will pull an LS6 up top too(higher speeds). Again its just undergeared. Like Greg I love them. I would love to do another one. I found one for 11 grand I am thinking about...
Islander is right about the new LT1-some have been wiping out cams. Ouch
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05-07-2014, 11:14 PM
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I would love to eventually have one, but I would need a house with a nice garage... Cuz when (not if) it needs work done on/to it, I'm damn sure not paying someone else if it's something I can do. The "Corvette tax" on those things is nuckin' futs. 
05-07-2014, 11:31 PM
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I guess you are talking about the ZL1, but with the beefed up drivetrain, its normal and worth it (it is still too heavy). ZL1 is a beast and its very fast on a road track stock and at the drag with minor boltons(low 11s).
Anyway, plp are talking like all 5th gen weights a ton more than GTs, but its not that bad, considering it has bigger wheels, biggers brakes all around and IRS!!
Lets wait till we see the new Mustang weight with all the same goodies the 5th gen has right now. Plp thinking its gonna be lighter by 400lbs are living in a dream. Even 200lbs is almost impossible. I hope its gonna wait less anyway. Its gonna be badass, even if it weights 100lbs more!
Anyway, plp are talking like all 5th gen weights a ton more than GTs, but its not that bad, considering it has bigger wheels, biggers brakes all around and IRS!!
Lets wait till we see the new Mustang weight with all the same goodies the 5th gen has right now. Plp thinking its gonna be lighter by 400lbs are living in a dream. Even 200lbs is almost impossible. I hope its gonna wait less anyway. Its gonna be badass, even if it weights 100lbs more!
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05-08-2014, 12:04 AM
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Yes you're a ******* moron because you still haven't grasped that GM didn't design the LT5.
The funniest part is that sometimes, it appears as if you actually think you're smart. Then it just takes a small topic like OHC engines to how how you're...just...not.
OHC engines have been around before the LT5 and Ford 4.6, skip.
The funniest part is that sometimes, it appears as if you actually think you're smart. Then it just takes a small topic like OHC engines to how how you're...just...not.
OHC engines have been around before the LT5 and Ford 4.6, skip.
05-08-2014, 12:07 AM
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So the 93 to 95 wouldn't be considered more performance? It has more power...which usually means they probably also upgraded other things as well kinda like the difference in the 2000 Z06 and 04 Z06...
05-08-2014, 12:11 AM
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The way you phrased it, the base ZR1 was 350hp, and the "upgraded one" was 400hp. And there was no '00 Z06. Jesus man, shut up.
05-08-2014, 12:23 AM
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The way you phrased it, the base ZR1 was 350hp, and the "upgraded one" was 400hp. And there was no '00 Z06. Jesus man, shut up.
And omg the world is gonna end because i was off by one ******* year on the c5 z06 lol either way the differences between the 01 z06 and the 04 z06 is more than just an engine upgrade, which should still make sense with the 90s zr1.