there really is no clear line
Someone's butt is a little sore
Sra is great for strength and durability. When it comes to planting both tires it kinda lacks. Have you ever wondered why the "loaded" tire spins harder on a sra car?
From what i gather 240's have a stout irs too. Technology has changed......it seems as some of these neanderthal's can only accept that when there is a horsepower number in front of it.
So faster than most everyone here......really most everyone
That helps all cars.
Nah......I've seen pulley/tuned/exhausted drag pak cars dip in the 11s at my track. But my track is kinda slow.

 

Probably not. Stock for stock, the record times are pretty far apart. I don't see a gear change alone closing the gap.

Your comment is just more proof the 5G needs mods to keep up.

The s550 and the 5G are definitely a driver's race stock for stock, edge to the s550.

 

There is at the 8 second mark . Solid axle has no camber change. Huge impact on traction. Sure IRS works, but SRA is better for drag

 

Last i looked both record times was .1 apart. Gear in a 5gen would easily cover .1
Lol......you really think there is 0 flex in that sra? Fact is you have MORE control of what that wheel does with irs. There is also toe change with sra. Now can you adjust/compensate for toe and camber changes on sra??? Cause you can with irs. You basically have 0 control over how the sra is gonna flex which is why back braces/trusses are incorperated in sra set ups......mostly once you get to the 8s

Btw.....8sec is no limitation to irs it just seems they get there fairly easily . They have been 6's.

I had a friend turn his sra 8.8 swapped cobra into a U almost trying to go high 9s.

Like i said there is no clear line. And even if/when there was that line is changing just as technology does. Just the way it is.

 

TIL giant solid piece of metal has more flex than tiny little CV axles

 

According to Camaro5 list, quickest stock ls3 was 12.588@110.3 and quickest stock l99 was 12.768@108.98

I wasn't aware that is only a tenth apart from the 12.22@115.18 on svtp.

Looks more like .368-.548 quicker and 4.88-6.2 faster, but double check my math

The next two on the stock s197 coyote list are both quicker and faster as well than the quickest 5G. I didn't go further past that. We all get the point

You must be talking about the s550, Ford's L99

 

Ill bite, curious what you are talking about here...

 

Lol. Hio just needs to give it a rest. Nobody agrees with him

 

No stock bro is going 12.2 115.

 

Odd, there were 4 on that list going 12.2-12.6@112-115

It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility in a base GT and a good track with mineshaft hero run air

 

Marc you got any vids of you beating that h/c/I ls1 Fbomb for $1,000? I bet that felt good!

 

I guess you think the wheel stays in place just using the cv's.....lol....ok

When you get down to the power is dispersed with more pickup points through irs than sra. Especially with these newer multi-link irs set ups with up to 5 points per side.
last I looked it was 12.4 for the 5br0 and 12.5 for the 5gen. Funny how most 5br0's struggle to get within a second of their record stock time while I have seen 2 5gens run in about .4 of it's record stock time.

Of course all that has changed now and the 6gen flat kicks both their asses. But you keep hanging on to the 5gen brah.
Because rotational forces unload that tire via the straight axle. That's why the rt tire spins harder......unless you're having some other type of diff issue or one tire being on dirt vs the other on asphalt. Just to put that out there before someone starts some dumb ****.

Those forces are none existent in irs because the differential is mounted independently of the wheel/tire. So they only have to deal with forward motion forces then.
Your IQ is in the negatives.

 

I just gave you the sources for both. Facts on paper are a bitch, man.

5G SS only managed to best Mustang GT stock for stock times 1 out of 6 model years. That's pretty good, right?

Agreed, new 6G straight flies.

 

Explain it to the class then, Newton. Don't just say "Fizziks is why! No need for an explanation!"

Same old Doug

 

Bro, I'm at Gateway, too, and the LS1 cars there don't turn my head very often. Bad drivers can **** up times for both cars, well except for the auto LS1s.

 

I'm still confused. Do you mean rotational forces due to crank/flywheel (spinning the car axially looking front to back)?

Edit: Also, when you say the tire spins "harder", do mean it spins faster, or overcomes more force to spin at the same rate as the other?

 

And I said that the bolt on ls1 range from high 12's to high 13's. That's fact right? There are also alot of 11 sec ones there too, as I already stated.

My point is, and you should be able to back me on it then if you go as much as me. That the gt500's are letdowns for the most part. You get one out of it seems like every 5 that run well. Which I stand by my statement that for what the cars are, the m6 fbody's perform better than the gt500. I clearly stated that they don't have better et or trap, but for what they are, the ls1 on Ave performs better, period!

Edit: talking bone stock.

I also said that the new coyote on Ave performs better than their top of the line production gt500 and I stand by that statement too. All we have to do is actually sit and film a couple wide open Wednesdays and midnight Madness's to prove it Lol.

 

Right on board there with you. The most disappointing cars at my local track for their mods are probably 5Gs (I mean for Christ's sake, a stock auto zl1 was happy with 12.8@114 best for the entire year after 3 outings), gt100s, ls1 goats

 

12.8 zl1 lol wut

 

Yeah, the goats don't perform that well here either, even modded. May get one once in a while, but it's rare. There actually are two good running 5th gens, ones in the 10's, other is really deep 11's. Have a few in the 12's, but mostly 13's. Have some copo's that run their ***** off though lol.

Actually have a few good running ctsv's and g8's though. Starting to get some decent running bro's now, so it should be a pretty good season.