Your going to fuel the fire. ZL1s are = to 5bros...

 

Yep, quite a few runs like that.
Well, I mean, your ZL1 ran an equivalent of a 12 as well. Glad you finally got some tires worth a damn.

 

Mod for mod a 5br0 will not touch a zl1 hell stock for stock it's not even close lol

 

so cam only gen 2 LT1 = zl1 killer? hawt damn sign me up

 

If I were to use that logic, it was still faster than EVERY 5bro running. On that pass, I was actually running against a Charger Scatt Pack. He lost.

Yes. New tires = good thing.

 

I'll be glad to have some usable ones this spring as well.

 

We can agree to disagree. When I go there, I always watch super closely for the 12 sec LS1s that aren't obviously cammed, and they're few and far between in M6 form. WSsick's was pretty bolted on and he ran a 12.5 @ 112 I believe, he drug my 95 Cobra's *** down the track

The GT500s at Gateway are a horrible example of their capability, I will give you that, but there are some guys who know how to drive getting respectable times out of them.

 

Yeah, I guess we will Lol

I'll start recording them though, because that means you're saying that the bolt on ls1 don't even run in the 13's since I said high 12's through high 13's. Out of curiosity, are you saying they run 14+ sec?

At least we agree on the gt500 though

 

No no no I fully agree with you, upper 12 to 13 secs is right.

 

seriously most people with g500 just blow the tires at the track. litterally have never seen one make a good pass in person

 

Y'all should come to the srk mir rental. You just might see one in person. Lol

 

i seriously wasnt doubting its capability to do a good time, its NC it just doesnt have any good owners

 

How did you make it through college with such low comprehension? I'm not the one that threw out the "fizziks" initially

No not the crank rotation. The rear end. If it wasn't bolted to the suspension it would just rotate in a sra car.

Hard for me to explain it . But I'm sure you have noticed the rt tire spinning first or in a open diff be the only one that spins. That's because it's unloading. I just used the term spinning harder.

 

I've seen plenty run like **** too. But it's not because of the car. A ls1 car should easily run bottom 12s these days and there is way mire than enough proof to show they can reach the 11s with enough ease. Mine ran 12.6 with very little done. Phills ws6 ran 12.9 with only free mods. Nathans 11.9 with out headers. Another friend went 12.9 bone stock. I've seen many run bottom 13s. I drove another to 13.0 with only a cut out/free mods.....on that run i put it in 4th gear....pulled it and put it back it just to be sure it was in. Woukda been a 12 sec pass no doubt but his shifter was stock and i didn't want to do the dreaded 3-2 shift so i was cautious.

None of those cars had a dr on them either.
I've seen cammed ones run 13s.....no real excuse for that. That is all on the owner.

 

I know that there are some good running ones out there, just not very many at our track lol. Wish I could come, but idk if I'll even have my car ready for our local track this season

To be fair, I'd say only half of the vettes run good too. There's some really good running ones. Then there's the ones that still run good, but should do better for their mods. Then there's the ones that have horrible drivers/et's with a nice trap speed. Then you have the ones that you have to double check the return Lane on the way by that it really was a vette

All cars have good and bad, but some fall into the wtf category more than others

 

False. The right tire on an SRA car gets pounded into the ground. Left tire can unload. Nothing a good ARB can't take care of. Proper weight transfer can push them both down pretty equally. Air bag in the right spring also helps.

 

Same here. In person, the best I've had one run against me was 6.4@110 or so. That was depressing for me.

 

Yes there are ways to correct it......that really is not what we are talking about.

What makes you think the left tire is unloaded? Movement of the body.......cause you are off track if you think that.

 

Ahh, I see what you're saying. The rotational forces from the drivetrain don't make it directly to the wheels because the diff is bolted to the body.

I was going to point out that one tire would always be loaded more (due to inertia from crank/flywheel through the body), but you are right, IRS would definitely dampen that affect compared to a SRA setup.

 

I agree and know that they are out there, but it's rare that someone actually does research and builds a proper combo. Bad drivers even make it worse. Trap times don't lie though.

For the most part around here, that's what the bolt ons unfortunately run. Tbh, the cammed ones don't run the times the fast list ones do. Maybe that's because of the driver, or they refuse to do weight reduction like me. Mine was as basic of a cookie cutter build that you could do, with zero free mods, but it worked ok for what it was. It could have ran much better than what it did and wasn't a good example of a proper cammed ls1. But even being an off the shelf TSP cam, full exhaust, ported TB, yank stall, still did quite well imo full weight. I listened to my builder at the time (too busy at work) and was happy I did. Could also be that mine was cammed with only 15,8xx on it so it wasn't ragged out.

That tells me that these cars do have alot of potential, that most people don't know, or care to learn about. I honestly think that it should be relatively easy for someone to take a cammed ls1 camaro and run high 10's. Weight reduction, suspension, free mods, on top the right combo/wheel setup, there's really no excuses not to.

Mine excuse was that I wanted zero weight reduction, I want my ac, and I want my car nice. That's the only reason I'm boosted now is because I wanted more power, and it's the lesser of two evils money wise.

As for the gt500 discussion, I was talking bone stock, or close to. Unless they are modded and have weight reduction, imo they don't impress me. I've seen them with good drivers here, but still wasn't impressed. But, I'm not impressed with my car now either, that's why I'm rebuilding it lol.