5.br0 vs LS2 GTO
04-28-2016, 09:50 AM
#184
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04-28-2016, 09:52 AM
#187
Yea your pissy
So cams now are a bad thing. Gonna lower my cyl pressure where my car can't move.
My heads are stock. I did port match the intake to them.....as one should. But no fancy mamo stuff. Just home ported .
Sbe ls6 is good for 7600. Even later ls1s. Mines been turing 7k for years and wuth logs were it bounces the rev limit to 7100 i feel confident in turning it harder.
Even with 1.8 rockers i have plenty of room to spare. Probably near .040 and plenty of duration.
I'm leaving alot on the table gear wise really
The ls6 fbo like a 5br0 will likely make as much power.....and not feel like a turd driving around.
The intakes are coming around for these engines. And if i were to do a h/c package i would not be above making my own runners or goin itb. Lots of options now.
I have no desire to do a h/c on this engine. When i want to I'll put the ls7 in. Bolt ons should suffice with it too.
You see you look at the problems. I look for the solutions. That's the difference in us.
So cams now are a bad thing. Gonna lower my cyl pressure where my car can't move.
My heads are stock. I did port match the intake to them.....as one should. But no fancy mamo stuff. Just home ported .
Sbe ls6 is good for 7600. Even later ls1s. Mines been turing 7k for years and wuth logs were it bounces the rev limit to 7100 i feel confident in turning it harder.
Even with 1.8 rockers i have plenty of room to spare. Probably near .040 and plenty of duration.
I'm leaving alot on the table gear wise really
The ls6 fbo like a 5br0 will likely make as much power.....and not feel like a turd driving around.
The intakes are coming around for these engines. And if i were to do a h/c package i would not be above making my own runners or goin itb. Lots of options now.
I have no desire to do a h/c on this engine. When i want to I'll put the ls7 in. Bolt ons should suffice with it too.
You see you look at the problems. I look for the solutions. That's the difference in us.
That's all you have to say? Where did I say that? Deflect when your backed into a corner.
Shifting your car @ 7000 and 7600 is a huge diffrrence. Shame on you, I expected you to know that. It will not last going that high on a regular basis. It's why nobody does it in their street car. Lol
Besides that's where it would need to be to be making 500+ with that big cam you have plenty space for. Lol a stock chambered 243 would have dismal dynamic compression. Shame, I expected you to know that too.
Put a 4.56 in that thing, let's see what it's got then!! Being you have soo much on the table and all. Lol
The necessary intake has BEEN around, it's called single plane.
Your greatest cop out at the end like always. Making huge claims and assumptions and taking no responsibility for it. You have no desire to do a h/c setup on your engine. LoL what a laugh, but you'll sure talk about it 24/7 day in and day out won't you?
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04-28-2016, 10:01 AM
#190
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04-28-2016, 10:05 AM
#191
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Again....my heads are stock. Not ported
You're the one that saids i would lose all my cyl pressure with a cam.
So are you saying all these 5bt0s shifting at 7600-7800 are gonna wear out fast? Be a little one way if you didn't.
Well since over 500 has been done in a cam only ls6 at this point i will have to assume my dc will be fine with the right cam. Of course all that would be calculated.
I don't want 4.56. Kinda wished i woulda went with a 4.22 tho.
It could be done with a single plain. But that would make it easy.
Don't really talk about doin h/c if you noticed. But there are examples of 500whp ones out there.
Like i said....you keep looking at the problems. The smart guys will look for solutions
Cams are a bad thing? Ahahahaha
That's all you have to say? Where did I say that? Deflect when your backed into a corner.
Shifting your car @ 7000 and 7600 is a huge diffrrence. Shame on you, I expected you to know that. It will not last going that high on a regular basis. It's why nobody does it in their street car. Lol
Besides that's where it would need to be to be making 500+ with that big cam you have plenty space for. Lol a stock chambered 243 would have dismal dynamic compression. Shame, I expected you to know that too.
Put a 4.56 in that thing, let's see what it's got then!! Being you have soo much on the table and all. Lol
The necessary intake has BEEN around, it's called single plain.
Your greatest cop out at the end like always. Making huge claims and assumptions and taking no responsibility for it. You have no desire to do a h/c setup on your engine. LoL what a laugh, but you'll sure talk about it 24/7 day in and day out won't you?
That's all you have to say? Where did I say that? Deflect when your backed into a corner.
Shifting your car @ 7000 and 7600 is a huge diffrrence. Shame on you, I expected you to know that. It will not last going that high on a regular basis. It's why nobody does it in their street car. Lol
Besides that's where it would need to be to be making 500+ with that big cam you have plenty space for. Lol a stock chambered 243 would have dismal dynamic compression. Shame, I expected you to know that too.
Put a 4.56 in that thing, let's see what it's got then!! Being you have soo much on the table and all. Lol
The necessary intake has BEEN around, it's called single plain.
Your greatest cop out at the end like always. Making huge claims and assumptions and taking no responsibility for it. You have no desire to do a h/c setup on your engine. LoL what a laugh, but you'll sure talk about it 24/7 day in and day out won't you?
So are you saying all these 5bt0s shifting at 7600-7800 are gonna wear out fast? Be a little one way if you didn't.
Well since over 500 has been done in a cam only ls6 at this point i will have to assume my dc will be fine with the right cam. Of course all that would be calculated.
I don't want 4.56. Kinda wished i woulda went with a 4.22 tho.
It could be done with a single plain. But that would make it easy.
Don't really talk about doin h/c if you noticed. But there are examples of 500whp ones out there.
Like i said....you keep looking at the problems. The smart guys will look for solutions
04-28-2016, 10:13 AM
#192
Again....my heads are stock. Not ported
You're the one that saids i would lose all my cyl pressure with a cam.
So are you saying all these 5bt0s shifting at 7600-7800 are gonna wear out fast? Be a little one way if you didn't.
Well since over 500 has been done in a cam only ls6 at this point i will have to assume my dc will be fine with the right cam. Of course all that would be calculated.
I don't want 4.56. Kinda wished i woulda went with a 4.22 tho.
It could be done with a single plain. But that would make it easy.
Don't really talk about doin h/c if you noticed. But there are examples of 500whp ones out there.
Like i said....you keep looking at the problems. The smart guys will look for solutions
You're the one that saids i would lose all my cyl pressure with a cam.
So are you saying all these 5bt0s shifting at 7600-7800 are gonna wear out fast? Be a little one way if you didn't.
Well since over 500 has been done in a cam only ls6 at this point i will have to assume my dc will be fine with the right cam. Of course all that would be calculated.
I don't want 4.56. Kinda wished i woulda went with a 4.22 tho.
It could be done with a single plain. But that would make it easy.
Don't really talk about doin h/c if you noticed. But there are examples of 500whp ones out there.
Like i said....you keep looking at the problems. The smart guys will look for solutions
Because the crank, Rods, and Pistons of both of these engines are of the same mass and material right? What about bearing size and clearenceing? Lol not even go to mention the valvetrain.
But i am looking for answers, FROM YOU all knowing one. I'm not the one defending myself on this forum on a daily basis now am I?
04-28-2016, 10:19 AM
#194
04-28-2016, 10:29 AM
#196
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You know what Hio, you might be onto something, what would a sbe ls6 dynamic compression be with a max effort cam and stock 243 chambers? I'll even give you the option to use a thin gasket. Lol Right on the edge of fly cutting or fly cut you choose. Either way, I have a good idea.
Because the crank, Rods, and Pistons of both of these engines are of the same mass and material right? What about bearing size and clearenceing? Lol not even go to mention the valvetrain.
But i am looking for answers, FROM YOU all knowing one. I'm not the one defending myself on this forum on a daily basis now am I?
Because the crank, Rods, and Pistons of both of these engines are of the same mass and material right? What about bearing size and clearenceing? Lol not even go to mention the valvetrain.
But i am looking for answers, FROM YOU all knowing one. I'm not the one defending myself on this forum on a daily basis now am I?
Yes the rods are made of same material...powdered. the pistons in the older coyotes were hyperutectic, seems furd had to go to forged first. Coukd be the durability thing you are speaking of. The bottom end of the ls is more robust. So it should carry the larger piston fine. I don't know the clearances of either.....why would i? That info is out there if i need it.
Go on into the valvetrain. You will likely find that pushrods work vary well fir what we are doin with out the limitations of ohc.
I'm not defending anything. I post up proof of **** either on my own build or others and you turn into a bitch.
04-28-2016, 10:31 AM
#197
Now everyone save these pages. Add them to your collection of many Hio and Ball Peen pwnage sessions. I'm sure the saga will continue tommorrow if not throughout the rest of the day with these two.
I've had my fill
I've had my fill
04-28-2016, 10:35 AM
#198
04-28-2016, 10:36 AM
#199
Hio tapped out lol. Plenty bolt ons for that car
Two c5s here at Ecklers are at 490 ish with new Mamo heads and Ported 102s. I think with a matching cam you will start seeing a lot more 500 rwhp fbombs. Most people including me run too small a cam and don't run all the bolt ons
Two c5s here at Ecklers are at 490 ish with new Mamo heads and Ported 102s. I think with a matching cam you will start seeing a lot more 500 rwhp fbombs. Most people including me run too small a cam and don't run all the bolt ons
04-28-2016, 10:37 AM
#200
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99pewterls1 :railed: and :jarred: Hio bad in here. Would read again. lol