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Old 05-11-2016, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Its Stock
I may try and get it under the knife for a 5.3 or 6.0 boost build, but I'm focusing on my 5.0 for now.



It was a learning experience. I definitely know of a few things I will be doing differently next time out.



Lund tunes my car... He told me it can't be clutch protection as it's turned off in his manual tunes.
Would you ever sell the RX-7? I'm assuming it's basically sitting as a shell right now?
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Would you ever sell the RX-7? I'm assuming it's basically sitting as a shell right now?
Yeah it just sits. No motor. Needs everything.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The way these guys like to average times they would **** if they averaged the top 25 ls1 list and the top 25 5br0 list. Only one or on tech would even make it on the ls1 list.

The hard running h/c cobro in this thread wouldn't make it either
If you can't make a LS1 run hard you are either low on money or low on knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Its Stock
Yeah it just sits. No motor. Needs everything.
Let me know if you ever want to sell it. Lord knows I don't need another project though lol.
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Originally Posted by CamOnlyJabroni
If you can't make a LS1 run hard you are either low on money or low on knowledge.
This is sig worthy right here.
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Originally Posted by Its Stock
I may try and get it under the knife for a 5.3 or 6.0 boost build, but I'm focusing on my 5.0 for now.



It was a learning experience. I definitely know of a few things I will be doing differently next time out.



Lund tunes my car... He told me it can't be clutch protection as it's turned off in his manual tunes.
Next time you go to the track, pull your trac control fuse out.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Next time you go to the track, pull your trac control fuse out.
Can't you just turn all the nannies off with the button?
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Originally Posted by islander033
Can't you just turn all the nannies off with the button?
Its supposed to be off via the tune, but I believe he is saying to pull the fuse just in case there is something still on for what ever reason.
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f
Its supposed to be off via the tune, but I believe he is saying to pull the fuse just in case there is something still on for what ever reason.
Toon doesn't turn all the nannies off....there is a button to push and hold.
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Originally Posted by islander033
Toon doesn't turn all the nannies off....there is a button to push and hold.
Yes, but I think what he's also trying to say is that button doesn't fully disable it neither.

At least on my truck, I can turn the nannies off by pressing and holding the button but in an event if I'm spinning way too much, TC will still kick back on.

You have to pull the fuse to get rid of it for good. At least that's how it is on my truck.
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Originally Posted by Prototype007
Keep crying. Or pack your **** and leave again.



I could really care less what you do, but you sure seem bothered by facts.
Likewise, no not really. Why would I be bothered by a lt1
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
The LS1 does have a power advantage but not to the degree you claim. it is simply easier to work with and a better platform for upgrading...especially bigger cubes (400+). However a simple AI H/C package will put a LT1 in the 400-420whp range, run mid low 11's, and trap around 120 done right.

I am guessing you got into LS engines when most LT1's were getting ragged out, just like the poor LS1 combinations you see posted here all the time these days. As these platforms get cheaper to obtain, they tend to get modded out with ebay parts and are just plain mismatched combos. As a result you end up with heads cam 6.0's getting beat by cars that trap 114.
Lt1s can make 420whp h/c but can't a ls1 make more power than that h/c? My buddy made 449 cam only stock heads with Pat g. Now if you change the whole design yeah anything is possible
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Originally Posted by CamOnlyJabroni
If you can't make a LS1 run hard you are either low on money or low on knowledge.
Originally Posted by Deeohgie69
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Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
Yes, but I think what he's also trying to say is that button doesn't fully disable it neither.

At least on my truck, I can turn the nannies off by pressing and holding the button but in an event if I'm spinning way too much, TC will still kick back on.

You have to pull the fuse to get rid of it for good. At least that's how it is on my truck.
There is a few vehicles that do that, still keep a partial TC engaged. I don't know personally about the year 5.0. But that's what I was saying I believe. Or I could be way off lol
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Lt1s can make 420whp h/c but can't a ls1 make more power than that h/c? My buddy made 449 cam only stock heads with Pat g. Now if you change the whole design yeah anything is possible
I said a basic heads/cam LT1...Switch to aftermarket heads now you are looking 440. 383, AFR, SR cam, Single plain, fuel, now you are 490-500 pretty easily. And a cam only LS1 at 449 is going to be a huge cam that drives like ****. To top it off I already said the LS1 has a power advantage.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Lt1s can make 420whp h/c but can't a ls1 make more power than that h/c? My buddy made 449 cam only stock heads with Pat g. Now if you change the whole design yeah anything is possible
LS1's make more power yes. If you are talking 243 heads STOCK not ported, a good ported stock casting LT1 head flows about the same. You take a 350 LT1 and turn it into a 383 and it is comparable to a mild H/C/I LS1 setup power wise. The 383 having a little more torque and the added cubic inches helps power production. You start doing the speed secrets like rotational mass, LS1 air induction, gasket matching intake, and exhaust flanges, proper gear ratio you can make a LT1 go. You can also do those same things to LS but those are variables than can even two setups or make them different. I'm sure a lot of people don't realize a LS1 lid setup on a LT1 is worth 10-15whp alone. Not even taking into account adding a ram air setup. Hell a proper merge collector rather than a lesser flowing pacesetter y pipe can be worth another 10-15whp. I am talking H/C/I 383 gains on the lid and merge. LS1's pick that much up too on a f body with some of the merges that are out there. You are not going to get those kind of gains out of a bolt on car.

Point is, if you squeeze everything out of a LT1 you can, you should be able to run with a mild LS1 setup. Trust me!
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Likewise, no not really. Why would I be bothered by a lt1
You like to keep dancing around with stips, so you're deeply bothered.

Poor LS1 fanboy tries so hard and continues to fall so short. You and Mappins can go hold each other's dicks and cry in the corner.
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Originally Posted by Prototype007
You like to keep dancing around with stips, so you're deeply bothered.

Poor LS1 fanboy tries so hard and continues to fall so short. You and Mappins can go hold each other's dicks and cry in the corner.
Bully!!
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If you push the brake and hold the traction control button for a few seconds, advance track turns off. Apparently not all the way off.
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
I said a basic heads/cam LT1...Switch to aftermarket heads now you are looking 440. 383, AFR, SR cam, Single plain, fuel, now you are 490-500 pretty easily. And a cam only LS1 at 449 is going to be a huge cam that drives like ****. To top it off I already said the LS1 has a power advantage.
I know so why are we arguing. It didn't drive like sit but definitely was a big cam. I don't think anything that gets tuned by Pat g drives like that. That was my whole point.


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